I cant believe wat has just happened, i am so upset think im in shock!

[hayleymitch]

I cant get over wat has just happened,
I have just had Dillon out on the park, and he was playing with this collie nicely and they where gettin on.
Then Dil decided to get a bit giggy, and tryed to hump the other dog which is very strange it isnt something he usually does at all.
Anyway the dog didnt like it and turned at him and they just started fighting big style they where right infront of the other dogs owner and as i was running over shouting at him to get off the other dog.
As i was running over the guy started kicking Dillon in the ribs for him to get off and then gave him a blow to the head, which he fell to the floor, eyes open but not moving at all and was shaking as if he was in shock and eyes where slightly rolling.
I was strokeing him and talking to him but he was just not moving, i think at that point i went into shock too, i asked if the other dog was ok and it was fine nothing wrong with it at which point the guy said god i feel really bad now i just didnt know what to do to get him off, and too be fair Dil was alot bigger dog( golden retriever) and he had hold of the other by the skruff of the neck.
After a few minutes Dil got up and walked off ok, i walked him a bit more just to make sure he was ok and he had a few little runs , but seemed very very quiet and walking very slowly for him.
I just couldnt believe his first reaction was to kick my dog in the head, i couldnt believe my eyes he didnt even give me chance to get him off and stop them fighting which i could of easily done if i had chance but he got to him before i had chance.
I just really really hope he is ok and hasnt suffered any internal bleeding etc i dont think he will have, i will be kepping a very close eye on him.
I cant believe he just set on the other dog though, he is like a big puppy usually with all dogs and loves to play with everything it was totally out of the blue.
The only thing i can think of why he did it was because last week at the farm my friend brought her dog down and she can be a bit of a fighter but she is getting on and she said oh she wont bother dil, they will be fine and next minute she turned on him and pinned him down.
He hasnt seen another dog since, i think he might have felt threatened, so now i am worrying he will do it again with another dog i am going to have to start leaving him on the lead.
God i am soooo worried now i hope he is goin to be ok, i couldnt even tell him off for doing it cause he had practically been knocked out.

 

[merlinsquest]

OMG poor dogs.... both of them

Hope they are both ok.... what a shock for you too.

It was bad for the guy to kick him in the head, but then I suppose he was defending his dog (not that it justifies that much agression).

Men just dont know their strength sometimes

Poor Dillon

 

[mattilda]

Ring your vet for advice. I would be a little concerned tbh.

 

[hayleymitch]

I am not defending Dillon in any way cause he was a bad lad for doing wat he did but the other dog must have snarled or showed some aggression, otherwise there is no way he would have done anything he usually runs away from trouble he is a wuss, thats why i cant understand it.

 

[GinaB]

A lot of people have never witnessed a true dog fight and perhaps the man was so shocked and scared of what was happening he just acted without thinking? I am not defending him BTW, but just a though.

I would ring your vet about Dillon, let him know what happened and how Dillon fell, shaking etc and see what they say.

 

[julie1984]

some strange people ,i had that happen to us and the man was kicking my poor patterdale in the guts , i felt like kicking him in the head as well, and his dog started it

 

[woolly]

all blame etc aside I would seriously get your vet to check your dog out and you need a big hug and some chocolate as it must have been horrific! Hope all are ok.

 

[hayleymitch]

Thanks for your coments guys, i have rung the vet and they said to keep a close eye on him, or i could take him in.
I have decided just to keep a close eye on him as he has since eaten and drunk and seems his normal self again and is now chewing his bone so cant be much wrong with him.
Think he must have just been in shock before, but will watch him and if i am not happy with him i have got a emergency vets around the corner that i can take him too any time through the night.
Thanks guys

 

[MurphysMinder]

Quite a long time ago we took in a GSD bitch who fought all of ours. One day she got out and attacked my old bitch. When we were unable to part them my OH grabbed a yard brush and hit the one bitch with it (not condoning such action but she was trying to kill the other bitch). Not sure if she was hit on head or where but she was knocked out cold. She came round in what was probably seconds and was a bit shaky but seemed okay. We took her straight to the vet who checked her over and said just to keep an eye on her. She never showed any ill effects. I would definitely get the vet to check your lad out, and just take it easy yourself, dog fights are really scary things

 

[CAYLA]

This is the most common cause of dog fighting, believe it or not...one dog gets fruity, the other does not like it, growls, bears teeth...and the humper

, turns....hence a fight breaks out, this is the exact reason I do not leave any big dogs or those more capable of causing damage if im not here to supervise

However....when out playing in fields, it's part of natural play and interaction, I would not restrict him to a lead....u need to be more aware of body language, and step in as his leader and calm his behaviour........for e.g, if one of my dogs began to hump another, I would step in right there, and stop the behaviour, it does not look pleasant and I do not like it, so imagine other owners would not...........Im not having a go either, just trying to explain a little better.
What breed is your boy, and are u confident to step in and break up a fight or remove him from one....should one occur?

My dogs play within their own pack, but I would not find it un-natural to meet up with someone, and my dog begin to play, then fight, I would have no problem stepping in to correct the behaviour, maybe the gentleman got scared, and has never as suggested by Gina whitnessed a full on dog fight...they can look very scary.
I have stepped in with my boot, to a full on dog fight, mind u, neither dog was mine, and the staffi was tearing the other dog apart

Do not feel like he is the monster from hell, it's pretty natural, just correct his behaviour and watch out for the body language, it can tell u alot about, what is about to errupt

Is he neutered? not that it matters as many an un neutered dog would do this too.

This is a typical scenario for us, when introducing a new rescue dog

 

[severnmiles]

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I am not defending Dillon in any way cause he was a bad lad for doing wat he did but the other dog must have snarled or showed some aggression, otherwise there is no way he would have done anything he usually runs away from trouble he is a wuss, thats why i cant understand it.

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But to be fair a dogs way of asking another dog to stop 'humping' him would not always be polite. Their 'talk' would be a snarl or a growl as a warning to get off.

Not condoning what the guy did but he was defending his own dog and perhaps things could have got much nastier if he hadn't intervened (albeit somewhat too harshly).

As someone else said, have a vet check him over, a blow to the head doesn't sound good.

 

[severnmiles]

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some strange people ,i had that happen to us and the man was kicking my poor patterdale in the guts , i felt like kicking him in the head as well, and his dog started it

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If it was fighting his dog I can sort of see why. Patterdales are working dogs and perfectly capable of killing an adult fox in an earth. They are known for being one of the 'hardest' terriers going.

The above aside, kicking or hitting of any force is really not the way to break up a dog fight. I think people just panic.

 

[Oneofthepack]

Are you sure he was humping the other dog and not just dominant posturing. One can kind of turn into the other but either way it usually sparks a good old fashioned doggy punch up. Apparantly if a dog runs away it reverts back to wild in 3 weeks in order to survive so it's not surprising that normal wild dog behaviour is never far from the surface even in the most domesticated dog.

Not a good idea to kick a dog in the head but I guess he was panicking. It is horrible to see your dog attacked. Can you ask a behaviourist for advice on how to stiop it happening again?

 

[hayleymitch]

Thanks for your reply advertCALAnder
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What breed is your boy, and are u confident to step in and break up a fight or remove him from one....should one occur

Golden retriever, and yes i am completely confident to step in, just unfortunatly i wasnt there straight away, i would have been striaght in there.

He seems to be fine anyway tonight thank god, will just have to be extra cautious in the future, to prevent this from happening again, i am just glad both dogs are ok.
Oh and yes he has been castrated, when he was 2.

 

[hayleymitch]

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Are you sure he was humping the other dog and not just dominant posturing. One can kind of turn into the other but either way it usually sparks a good old fashioned doggy punch up.

Oh yes was defo humping obviously the other dog didnt want a hump, but could you blame him.
When a big hairy teddy is on your back lol.
No wonder they ended up fighting

 

[CAYLA]

Sounds like a typical gang bang, getting out of hand

, just stay closer next time, so u can step in, so no one has to assault the boy

But do not panick and restrict his play, just be aware, these things happen

 

[BBH]

I haven't read other posts but I have to say if I saw my dog being attacked I would kill to defend him and I would imagine the guy just reacted in shock, he does seem a decent sort not to have a go at you and realised he went OTT.

An awful situation for all concerned and I would take Dil to the vet for a check over and to put your mind at rest.

 

[foxviewstud]

oh dear, not good to kick the dog in the head but at least the bloke realised that he had been a little hard, breaking up dog fights is not a nice thing and if your not careful you will get bitten most people just freeze. i had to pull a bull mastiff off a jr once what a nightmare, the bull mastiff was in for rehoming and had been taken out on the grass (everyone was made aware not to bring anyother dogs out) but a girl we had for workexperience decided to bring out a jr who was boarding,

she got as far as the other side of the gate before the bull mastiff was on the dog and trying to squash him and the girl just stood there while i tried to pull this big fat dog off him with only a metal link collar which really hurt,

even when i managed to drag her off the girl still just stood there till i shouted at her by which time the bloke that took the mastiff out got down and took her off me was very scary but had i not got involved i dont think the dog would have got away

!!!! hope your boy is feeling a lot better and thinks twice bout humping lol

 

[bushbaby28]

feeling for you as must have been a really bad situation. Totally get what your saying as its not really your dogs fault- just a doggy thing really i guess!

However i do agree with SecretSanta to a degree- i would do anything to protect my dog and even though you say how lovely your dog is, the bloke doesn't know that and so was doing anything to protect his own dog. He did the right thing by not getting his hands in there and try to grab the dogs as he could of got bitten.

Really glad to hear both dogs are ok though and try not to worry too much of change your behaviour- let him play but stay close so IF anything happens your there right awayto sort it out. xx