The Fuzzy Furry
Getting old disgracefully
Calling Mrs E - have you got yourself sorted m'dear? Swapped paddocks so you can use the barn?
Fingers xx'd
Fingers xx'd
I don't care where it is, £20pw week is peanuts and I've no idea why people do it for that money, even if there's no mortgage. I obviously don't know the liveries in the livery yard under discussion but I do feel that livery prices are partly to blame for the welfare crisis currently. Its too easy to collect horses and it may all be fine until you find yourself with nowhere to put them or if prices suddenly hike and suddenly your costs go up by 25-50%, then what? I've seen it too often, don't have what you can't plan for in an emergency and if you don't have your own place, you are never completely safe. Its difficult enough to place two horses at livery, three or more even more so.
The reason people 'won't pay it is because they don't have to.
I have three, at home and I rent fields. No arena although I have parking for my lorry Taking into account the cost of the stables, mortgage etc I don't do it for £20pw. I've actually not paid £20pw ever tbh, even yards round my way that were charging £25pw DIY 10 years ago woke up and started charging more.
I'm in the north east, where a 3 bed house with 5 acres of land, 4 stables and a sand school will set you back around £200k. (one just up the road from the yard where I keep my horses just sold for this)...
Where abouts? It's 200k for a 3 bed semi where I live, outskirts of Newcastle.
Last time I looked, there was nothing with land for less than 800k on right move. Duke of Northumberland owns so much land that the price of what remains is high.
Calling Mrs E - have you got yourself sorted m'dear? Swapped paddocks so you can use the barn?
Fingers xx'd
There is an update.....
I waited until the livery had come home to inform her that I would be putting my horses in 'her' field. She wasn't overly impressed, but couldn't say much. I told her she could use another field if she wished to turn out her horses, but she rarely does so that isn't a huge issue. I also offered her another stable (much too small for mine, but ok for hers) as one of her stables had water in the front as the yard was flooding. She said she couldn't move as hers are colts/stallions.
She then told me that she was withholding rent for one stable due to to the flooding.
She will be getting notice.
All problems solved!
There is an update.....
I waited until the livery had come home to inform her that I would be putting my horses in 'her' field. She wasn't overly impressed, but couldn't say much. I told her she could use another field if she wished to turn out her horses, but she rarely does so that isn't a huge issue. I also offered her another stable (much too small for mine, but ok for hers) as one of her stables had water in the front as the yard was flooding. She said she couldn't move as hers are colts/stallions.
She then told me that she was withholding rent for one stable due to to the flooding.
She will be getting notice.
All problems solved!
There is an update.....
I waited until the livery had come home to inform her that I would be putting my horses in 'her' field. She wasn't overly impressed, but couldn't say much. I told her she could use another field if she wished to turn out her horses, but she rarely does so that isn't a huge issue. I also offered her another stable (much too small for mine, but ok for hers) as one of her stables had water in the front as the yard was flooding. She said she couldn't move as hers are colts/stallions.
She then told me that she was withholding rent for one stable due to to the flooding.
She will be getting notice.
All problems solved!
And good luck to her, finding space for her multiple colts, especially at this time of year
Remember, its not your problem!
I wasn't living here in the summer, I have only been here a couple of months.
But the livery has been offered a different stable that she has turned down. It is a difficult situation, the OP has only owned the yard a couple of months and it takes time to work out what works when you move to a new house, the livery with stallions/colts maybe need to appreciate what she's got and realise it may well be not easy to find a yard to take her horses if she's awkward with the YO.Feel a bit sorry for your liveries to be honest. It's not their fault there's not enough room. A flooding stable is not on really is it?
Do it fairly and give plenty of notice to them, a few weeks before Christmas is not a great time to be asked to move.
Not saying you should keep the liveries but just put yourself in their position.
Feel a bit sorry for your liveries to be honest. It's not their fault there's not enough room. A flooding stable is not on really is it?
Do it fairly and give plenty of notice to them, a few weeks before Christmas is not a great time to be asked to move.
Not saying you should keep the liveries but just put yourself in their position.
There is an update.....
I waited until the livery had come home to inform her that I would be putting my horses in 'her' field. She wasn't overly impressed, but couldn't say much. I told her she could use another field if she wished to turn out her horses, but she rarely does so that isn't a huge issue. I also offered her another stable (much too small for mine, but ok for hers) as one of her stables had water in the front as the yard was flooding. She said she couldn't move as hers are colts/stallions.
She then told me that she was withholding rent for one stable due to to the flooding.
She will be getting notice.
All problems solved!
I think you will find the OP is the landowner, so no problems there.So presumably the liveries were there before you? I can foresee problems if the liveries complain to the landowner. Perhaps you could move the grazing round so that those which come in overnight have the worst field, which might mean that someone decides to go anyway. If not, I would give plenty of notice, more than the usual month to whoever you decide has to go, which will build goodwill.
Great you have got partially sorted (yours ).
At least weekly payment means that you won't lose much if they do a bunk.
Are you doing notice to just that 1or all of them?
Where abouts? It's 200k for a 3 bed semi where I live, outskirts of Newcastle.
Last time I looked, there was nothing with land for less than 800k on right move. Duke of Northumberland owns so much land that the price of what remains is high.
Which is a fine attitude to have if you can afford not to have liveries.I used to live just north of there and agree. I actually think its by the by though, my place (less than 5 acres) cost a bit over £200K-why would that mean I should only charge £20pw for a livery if I wanted one? If I factored in an arena at £20K etc there's no way. it adds up and I'm not even talking any profit.