I know breeding is risky and expensive...

Not quite sure I understand your post A. :confused:
I paid 650 for Dexter and he is worth every penny even though he is wonky and, according to Slinky Unicorn, dopey!! :D
 
Trouble is as you have said yourself there are very few litters being bred so I suppose breeders feel they can get away with asking these prices. There are some French Bulldogs in paper tonight for £1200 :D Might be worth your while making contact with breeders and seeing if they ever have pups at a more sensible price. Were you thinking dog or bitch, sometimes breeders will place a bitch on "breeding terms". This means you pay less but the breeder retains the right to have a litter and keep x number of pups from the bitch. In a breed that is struggling with numbers it might be something they would consider. They can be fraught with problems but also can work well if both parties know exactly what to expect.
 
No it's ok....and it's not actually Corgis which are that expensive believe it or not. I'm looking at around £550 for a bitch which I can (just about) justify to myself.

I've been looking at other breeds too and enquired about a Rottie (not 100% serious but a breed I do seriously want at some point) but they were asking £800 a puppy. Then again if people will pay it then fair enough.

I paid £175 for Jack and I thought that was a little steep but on doing some research I'm beginning to think I have squiffy views, I was expecting around the £300 mark for most breeds....looks like puppy might be a pipe dream :(
 
I paid £650 for Harley. German Shorthaired Pointers aren't a rare breed, but they're not 10 a penny either... His Dad's owner said she recommends the bitches owners that they charge the same per puppy as the stud fee which is £650....

Looking around GSP's were generally £650 - £750. There was the odd litter for less, but the ad described pups that I wouldn't have bothered going to see if you know what I mean!

However have a friend who has literally just picked up a Harley half brother and they paid £850!!
 
We paid £500 for a wire haired fox terrier bitch. All my other dogs have been less than £100 crossbreeds. The pups from the next litter were £750 I think the breed is quite rare though. When we breed her the pups will be advertised at £500-600 with puppy pack, jabs etc which I think is fairly reasonable :)
 
Decent vizzies are 800-850 and parsons about half that although they range in price more. Dogs are expensive! You could get a parson in your price range though ;) :) Not trying a sales pitch here, I have no litters planned!
 
Sorry Annette, just assumed you were talking corgis.:o When you consider that the last litter I bred nearly 10 years ago sold for £350, and that was on the low side for well bred shepherds, its not surprising that a well bred, well reared pup is so expensive, although I would struggle to pay that myself. I know Evies litter mates sold for £650 plus, but her lovely breeder gave her to me free.:D
 
Annette4 said:
What's annoying me more than my inner cheapskate is that I'd LOVE a rescue but dad refuses to allow a home check :mad:
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Ah just get one from Cayla, she lets anyone have one of hers :p:D:D:D

I find the price of puppies absolutely incredible TBH, but then as a confirmed 'rescuer' I dont understand anyone who wants a puppy when rescues are so much easier :D
 
Mine were £300 because I have known their breeder/s, my whole life and they were sold as pets, not for showring or breeding, but even then that was with hips, eyes, elbows, DNA, microchip, tattoo, prelim x-rays at six months, imported father SchIII and VA1 in Britain and Ireland, mother SchI.
The others in the litter are all homed with family.

This is no word of a lie, a Chinese businessman offered £30,000 sterling for their sire, now deceased, breeder did not believe him until his agent turned up at a show in England with a breifcase full of notes.
He said no, the dog was worth much more to him than that.

Someone down the country is selling Quenn pups for 1200 Euro (!).

People charge these prices, because other people are willing to pay!!!
 
UnaB said:
Thats not just for the dog, thats to get him here too! Its probably closer to £8k (at the moment...!!!) really but i expect we will have last minute chaos that will cause expense.

Thankfully, im not paying :D
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fecking nora! What breed? Where is he?
 
We used to have chis. I had a stunning little dog who would guard me with his life, had he been any bigger he would have been put down at a very early age, everyone was terrified of him. If he didn't bit you he would pee on you, and that including a visiting policemans boot, luckily he was a dog handler and found it hilarious.:D
 
My little dog was £1500 seven years ago and worth every penny. I have just reserved a new puppy at £1500 aswell although entirely different breed.

I saw a french bulldog the other day being offered at £4,500 and I bet they'll get it too as it was a rare colour.


All dogs are expensive these days but my pet hate is breeders who offer bitches for significantly high prices just cos they think we all want to breed.
 
I have never paid more than £250 for a dog. beastie was £250, back when mini schnauzers weren't popular. They have become more expensive now they are more popular and last nosey in paper showed none cheaper than £450.

Midget lab was a total bargain. Got her for £250 but worth more.
 
Depending on what health tests have been ran on the parents and assuming that the dog is well bred id be willing to pay that sort of money for a pup of a breed i was looking for..

...but if its just for the sake of a having a specific breed and there seems to be no certs of soundness(along the line of hip scores for parents,preferably grandparents to,eye tests etc depending on the breed) so to speak then i wouldnt..

Id love to have a GSD in the future...but to be honest knowing what i do know now about the breeds health issues
(sorry guys on here for dissing them,i do think there great dogs,but doing vet and having them come up as a potential risk for so much is off putting even though it is probably down to poor breeding practices in the past, its still very depressing reading)
I wouldnt be willing to take on a pedigree Pup now unless i knew a lot about their line and general health of immediate family..not to mention the health checks...

It would be just as easy to go adopt a dog that needs a home and take the health risk that way rather than spend all that money on a specific breed.
Jmo
 
Aru ask away if you want a pup from a good breeder in Ireland :) or can point you in the direction of one of our member clubs.

I can recommend several kennels who have been carrying out health testing and hip scoring for decades, my own mother signed up to the BVA hip testing scheme in around 1976, although we no longer breed, but just to show you, responsible, knowledgeable breeders are out there and have been for some time. There is no one in my circle at least who would dream of breeding from animals without health tests, hip and elbow scores with suitable results.

I do agree though, if people are not prepared to do their research, check out pedigrees, investigate health test/score results, speak to breeders, compare other progeny from the same parents if possible, then you might as well go to a rescue as they too will be an unknown quantity in terms of their background and you won't have to pay hundreds for the honour.
 
CaveCanem said:
Aru ask away if you want a pup from a good breeder in Ireland :) or can point you in the direction of one of our member clubs.

I can recommend several kennels who have been carrying out health testing and hip scoring for decades, my own mother signed up to the BVA hip testing scheme in around 1976, although we no longer breed, but just to show you, responsible, knowledgeable breeders are out there and have been for some time. There is no one in my circle at least who would dream of breeding from animals without health tests, hip and elbow scores with suitable results.

I do agree though, if people are not prepared to do their research, check out pedigrees, investigate health test/score results, speak to breeders, compare other progeny from the same parents if possible, then you might as well go to a rescue as they too will be an unknown quantity in terms of their background and you won't have to pay hundreds for the honour.
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Cavecanem if i ever do start the process of getting a GSD you'd probley be number one on my list of people id think of to ask over about them! :)
From reading your posts on this forum you tend to restore my faith in the fact that there are good breeders out there. :)

I do know that there are some great breeders out there for the Breed.Im just feeling down about it at the minute because ive exams at the minute,yes im procrastinating on here :P and half the diseases ive been learning have had GSD as a specific point of intreast...so its been playing on my mind lately.

Of course with all that ive said about health testing...Currently family dog,the lovely Jesse.Comes from a backyard breeder who was chosen on the basis that she was in the local town and was a Labrador.. which is what my parents were looking for!
Shes the only dog my dad ever paid more than a few pounds for.I think she cost 200 euro... she comes with a pedigree and she is a bit of a disgrace as labs go...she is gunshy and afraid of water ...but she is healthy and happy so far thankfully.Her only issue is trying to keep her weight down and thats just our fault for not managing her properly not her's.
But we dont have a clue of what her pedigree means so it doesnt really help that much. Apart from her having typical lab traits as in loves people,walks and food..the extra money for a pedigree seems a bit pointless..
 
I think alot of breeders who have good blood lines and maybe even those from Cruft winners can afford to charge higher prices.
A breeder will of course want the puppy to go to a good home and if your prepared to pay more than a rescue dog price then you may in their eyes be more likely to take better care of it. Not always true in my opinion.
A puppy pack, insurance, vaccinated, wormed, pedigree certificate and microchipped, would be what you would expect paying those prices. But at the end of the day if you love it, you'd pay for it.
I would. :)
 
I'd be happy to help :)

We are all still suffering from the population explosion in the 1980s and hopefully the case of people breeding two German Shepherds together because they entire and to hell with what was lurking in the bloodlines is starting to die out now.
Money will always be a factor to some people sadly (ie making it and to hell with the consequences) but the more people educate themselves and know what to look out for and therefore avoid, the less people will profit irresponsibly.

Even my mum made mistakes, her first litter back in the day came about because she thought it would be fine to leave the dog and bitch alone together all day - luckily they were both quality animals and the litter turned out well - and she had a lot of sense talked into her by her elders :p

Us human beings cocked the breed up so it is up to us to ensure we put it right again, hence my often evangelical musings on here. We are actually upping our health requirements for showing and breeding in 2011 at the request of members.

The one good thing about the rigid record keeping, highly detailed pedigrees and DNA testing in properly papered shepherds means that any problems that do crop up can be stamped out by removing suspect animals from the breeding programmes.
 
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