I know they say "buyer beware" and all that ...

Rowreach

Rowreach

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.. but I have just seen the ad that the person selling my friend's mare has just put online and it's quite frankly a pack of lies
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Not only that, but the mare is difficult, unpredictable, and at times imho dangerous (the reason she is being sold is that my friend ended up in hospital after a bad fall) and the ad implies that the horse is anyone's ride and easy in all respects
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My friend bought her (ill-advisedly) out of a field, and knows nothing about her history - yet the seller has concocted a whole raft of stories about what the horse has done in riding club etc (so not checkable) and with her "current" owner (er, nothing as it happens
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I always knew you shouldn't believe everything you see in an ad, but this takes the biscuit and I am really shocked by it
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My friend isn't happy, but I don't know what she's going to do about it
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Surely she has a responsibility regarding the wording of the ad if she is the owner of the horse. What is the arrangement she has with the person selling it?
 
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Surely she has a responsibility regarding the wording of the ad if she is the owner of the horse. What is the arrangement she has with the person selling it?

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That's what I am trying to find out, I am very very unhappy about this.

btw it's not on H&H in case anyone is worried
 
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Surely she has a responsibility regarding the wording of the ad if she is the owner of the horse. What is the arrangement she has with the person selling it?

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That's what I am trying to find out, I am very very unhappy about this.

btw it's not on H&H in case anyone is worried

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I think you are right to be worried - I think that if there is any comeback, she will be held responsible as the owner. She really needs to act to prevent this ad continuing. Has she expressed any concern?
 
The horses owner should be taking responsibitly of the wording of the advert, this woman may be able to dress it up as nice as she wants but its the owner that will have to live with the problems or if someone sends the horse back, I doubt this other woman will want to know then!

Besides surely its a complete waste of time doing this, you'll get people trying the horse and see it for what it really is, so its wastes everyone's time let alone putting someone's life in danger.
 
I totally agree. I don't want to post the link really, and I am hoping that the ad won't be live much longer anyway. I have told my friend what I think, and about the potential comebacks, and if she doesn't act to get the ad changed or removed then I will probably contact the website direct. I couldn't live with myself if something happened to someone trying or buying the mare.

I was there when the accident happened and it's not often I blame the horse, but on this occasion ...
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This raises an interesting question - bit off topic - about who you are actually buying from when you buy a horse on 'sales livery' (which the implication of the OP is the case here but I may be wrong). Should we, as buyers, actually refuse to have the contract (of sale) with the dealer if the horse is still owned by the owner? It seems a great way to pass off dodgy horses with the buyer left in a grey area as to who to sue if this go really pear shaped because they have been intentionally mislead.

In future, if I buy another horse, my first question will be 'who actually owns the horse?' and if its not the dealer I want to do negotiations and ask questions of the actual owner. If they refuse I would not proceed any further.
 
For the safety of some unfortunate out there you really need your friend to pull the ad.
Does the horse have good days, if so saying a younger or less experienced person tries said horse on a good day and buys the animal, that could be a serious accident waiting to happen.
If this does happen, everyone who knew the truth about this horse will have that on their concience
 
If the horse is being sold on commission or as a sales livery then the Sale of Goods act applies and this seller (not the owner) could be sued if the horse hurts someone. For his/her own sake it's a stupid thing to do.

Rowreach, you have my respect for acting on this. If would be dreadful if the horse hurts someone else and it was sold knowing what a problem it was but lying about it.
 
No way will I sit back and let it happen - but my real reason for posting about this is to make people doubly aware that there are many sellers/dealers out there who will happily spout any amount of cr*p just to get a sale, and be indifferent to the possible consequences.

Unfortunately the horse looks lovely, moves nicely, jumps well, and yes, can give the impression of being perfectly well-behaved (especially if she has had loads of work - the pic in the ad would suggest she has). But she is not a pleasant horse at all
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and she will hurt someone else before too long.

And yes, she is at a selling yard, my friend has been unable to ride (or drive or anything else really) since she was dumped off her in August
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I admire you for what you're doing or at least trying to do and I hope it does work out and the ad is removed. I do always feel sorry for horses in this circumstances though to be honest. It's not their fault after all is it. Obviously something is wrong with it/has happened to it previously to make it how it is as I don't believe there's 'evil horses' out there.

How very very sad. I can only see this ending in tears one way or another.
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if an agent sells it then the agent is jointly liable with the owner. the agent is not doing this for fun but for financial gain, and both parties are liable for mis- representation. the agent (for financial gain) is also liable under the trades description act! but the age old buyer beware!!
 
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