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Brambridge04

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After a few horric schooling sessions my young mare was ridden in draw reins for first time ever last night and wow what an amazing difference in attitude and performance!!
 
*pulls up a chair, makes flask of coffee, puts snacks within easy reach, grabs fags and ashtray and settles in*

Actually that might be premature, this would go much longer in CR!
 
I hate draw reins. They create a totally false outline: proper self carriage, impulsion etc is what creates a true soft and rounded outline with the poll the highest point. Draw reins easily create an unhappy horse and are but a few short steps away from rollkur. Ditch them and invest in a good trainer and some decent schooling for both horse and rider.
 
They are not used for outline....they where used to stop her taking the pee out of me and also instructor and acting a total fool whilst being totally ignorant and ignoring everything.

Not used for outline at all! !
 
jemima_too said:
*pulls up a chair, makes flask of coffee, puts snacks within easy reach, grabs fags and ashtray and settles in*

Actually that might be premature, this would go much longer in CR!
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Shove over JT- and give us a fag..... ta x

OP- what exactly is it you LOVE about draw reins? The fact they make your horses head go in?
 
They do tend to give the rider a false sense of achievement!

Not brave enough to say more but am reaching for the popcorn :)

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Box_Of_Frogs said:
I hate draw reins. They create a totally false outline: proper self carriage, impulsion etc is what creates a true soft and rounded outline with the poll the highest point. Draw reins easily create an unhappy horse and are but a few short steps away from rollkur. Ditch them and invest in a good trainer and some decent schooling for both horse and rider.
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It is not the draw reins that do that... It is the rider holding them :)
 
Depends on your definition of horrific, if your definition is not working properly then thats a whole lot different to horrific meaning the horse turning itself inside out, bucking, rearing and generally being a complete prawn.

If its the latter, then draw reins are imho, entirely jusitified to help you get your point across. If you are unable to get your horse to listen to you and school properly then thats a whole other thing. :)
 
do you not think if you have a horse 'bucking, rearing and turning itself inside out' that there might be underlying problems that might need more than draw reins?
 
Becuase used loosely as a back up she began to listen and behave and rather than play up!

I had always thought they where awful till instructor advised trying them.

She had teeth bit back saddle shoes etc all checked and done and a few proffesional lessons where advise was due to her size she was settin neck and ignoring me and doing as she pleases x
 
Brambridge04 said:
Becuase used loosely as a back up she began to listen and behave and rather than play up!

I had always thought they where awful till instructor advised trying them.

She had teeth bit back saddle shoes etc all checked and done and a few proffesional lessons where advise was due to her size she was settin neck and ignoring me and doing as she pleases x
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Draw reins arent my cup of tea either, i appreciate they may stop her from taking the pee but i dont personally think that you should stop her taking the pee by pulling her head down.

If she gets set in the neck and doesnt listen id be doing big bends in slow work to show her how to bend then transitions to get her listening and small circles if she doesnt and lateral work to get her listening and bending, its hard work but she would be better for it.

You did say she is young afterall, they all test the boundaries when hard work comes along but i think that hard work and persistence would have a better outcome long term than resulting to training aids so early on.

xxxx
 
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This is the user that was buying an ISH and wanted us to tell her what saddle was going to fit it. When that fell through, she bought a 'wild' unhandled NF baby, and proceeded to 'break it in' within 2 days, complained everyone was bullying her when they said that was a bad idea, then came crying again when she realised they were right.

I think she's what is known as 'a lost cause' and I just feel sorry for the little mare.

Anyway, carry on...
 
Stencilface said:
Depends on your definition of horrific, if your definition is not working properly then thats a whole lot different to horrific meaning the horse turning itself inside out, bucking, rearing and generally being a complete prawn.

If its the latter, then draw reins are imho, entirely jusitified to help you get your point across. If you are unable to get your horse to listen to you and school properly then thats a whole other thing. :)
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Agreed ! My draw riens go on to stop me being head butted in the face ! After 10 years of top notch care and attention, I am pretty sure there is nothing wrong with her other than the fact she is a diva and doesn't like being told what to do - especially by me !! Mine clip on to my girth they can come off when she is working well. I can normally tell when I get her in from the field if it is going to be a day for needing them or not. I don't use them all the time. some days she is an angel - they just need to be used carefully !!
 
Draw reins are an extremely useful tool in the right hands.

God forbid anyone suggests as much on this forum though, it's akin to admitting that you like to skin puppies alive :rolleyes:
 
I have nothing against draw reins per se - if i was taking young horses on the road who had a tendency to spin and rear, id wear them as a safety precaution.

But if i couldn't manage to school my horse without them i'd rethink whether i was over-horsed or not a strong enough rider for my horse.

You see so many riders on yards who claim their horses are crazy rearers and buckers and they don't 'listen' unless they have draw reins on. But then you see these horses going fine when stronger riders get up on them on clinics or during lessons.
 
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