I STILL cannot work my horse. Help me come up with an annual regime please!

[Loughlin]

No, I'm not a new owner, but I might as well be with my 18 year old ISH. I have never been able to worm him without a physical (lifted of the ground) battle or praying he won't detect it in the feed.

At this juncture in my life, dealing with the rearing and potential injury - I'm not up for it. He's not going to change. Is there a granule that would cover encysted red-worms and bots... I can get a granule for the general worming, but I'm worried I'm neglecting my horse because I'm not able to do a basic rookie thing with him. YES, I have done all the training I could using dummy doses - for weeks in the past..... he's dangerous around syringes. Be rude... I just want an answer. Thanks and sorry for the tone. Frustrated and feeling like I'm drifting into neglect at this point.

 

[Loughlin]

WORM... not work... how do I edit threads? Thanks, Loughlin

 

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Do poo worm count tests then you might not have to worm all the time?
For the ones you do need to do, put it in some chaff.

 

[Loughlin]

He's onto that.... I will do a test. Very good thought. Thanks.

 

[Peglo]

Can’t you get wormer in an apple flavour tablet? I was going to ask if anyone used them?

 

[Roxylola]

Panacur comes in granules for sure (redworm)
A cored apple? Although I never like feeding whole apples just in case they swallow them

 

[Gloi]

I always blindfold the stroppy ones with a sweater so they don't see it coming.

 

[coblets]

a) Worm count rather than worm
b) If you really need to worm him, I’d have a look at R+ to make it a more pleasant experience for him.

With R+ you can often get horses to do it at liberty and, as it’s an important husbandry skill, I’d rather make sure they have positive connotations with it. If you’ve not used R+ before though, you may want to invest in a trainer.

I always blindfold the stroppy ones with a sweater so they don't see it coming.

Don’t they just end up avoiding the blind fold?

 

[ycbm]

A wormer bit?
.

 

[teddypops]

I always blindfold the stroppy ones with a sweater so they don't see it coming.

I worm from the off side because they don’t expect it!

 

[Gloi]

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Don’t they just end up avoiding the blind fold?

I've never had that problem. Sweater over neck, tie sleeves under throat then fold it forward. Do whatever you don't want them to see coming . Remove sweater. All over in 30 seconds.

 

[Loughlin]

a) Worm count rather than worm
b) If you really need to worm him, I’d have a look at R+ to make it a more pleasant experience for him.

With R+ you can often get horses to do it at liberty and, as it’s an important husbandry skill, I’d rather make sure they have positive connotations with it. If you’ve not used R+ before though, you may want to invest in a trainer.


Don’t they just end up avoiding the blind fold?

Thanks you Coblets.

 

[Lipglosspukka]

I also blind fold. They still go up but by then I've managed to get the wormer down them.

 

[Loughlin]

I worm from the off side because they don’t expect it!

That's genius.

 

[Loughlin]

I also blind fold. They still go up but by then I've managed to get the wormer down them.

I also blind fold. They still go up but by then I've managed to get the wormer down them.

You guys are cheering me up enomously.

 

[Loughlin]

I've never had that problem. Sweater over neck, tie sleeves under throat then fold it forward. Do whatever you don't want them to see coming . Remove sweater. All over in 30 seconds.

You know... I'm going to try this. If he tolerates his fly veils, being blind-folded should be fine. Thank you.

 

[Loughlin]

A wormer bit?
.

Yeah, he's just so good to be bitted... I'm reluctant to mess with this delightful, easy area of his moodiness. I do hear you.

 

[JackFrost]

I have not used a syringe for years. I asked a rep from a worming company if jam sandwiches were ok, and he said absolutely yes. But I use a healthier alternative such as a nice fruit salad or yummy carrot mash with apple juice, mashed banana or whatever they especially like. Mix it in well.
The hardest ones to disguise I find are pramox and pyrantel. Moxidectin can be tricky but just needs a bit more yumminess.
Strongid p and ivermectin ones are the easiest. You could get wormer in tablet form a year or so ago (in the UK), but these are hard to come by now. If your horse likes polos, it is very easy to slip in a tablet among the polos.
This has worked for all of them, including ones that were very sensitive to detecting wormer or difficult to handle.

 

[Mule]

Most of them are flavoured these days. Just put it in his food

 

[Orangehorse]

Lots of sugar in apple sauce. Use the stewed apple for a couple of days beforehand. LOTS of sugar.

 

[HollyWoozle]

Have you tried Spillers Senior Super Mash as the feed to hide it in? I swear I don’t work for them, I recommend it all the time, but I wormed all five of ours with this last time and they licked the bowls clean. Can’t get enough!

 

[Loughlin]

I will look into that feed.... fantastic. Thanks so much for all this gold.

 

[Loughlin]

Lots of sugar in apple sauce. Use the stewed apple for a couple of days beforehand. LOTS of sugar.

Roger! Thanks.

 

[Loughlin]

I have not used a syringe for years. I asked a rep from a worming company if jam sandwiches were ok, and he said absolutely yes. But I use a healthier alternative such as a nice fruit salad or yummy carrot mash with apple juice, mashed banana or whatever they especially like. Mix it in well.
The hardest ones to disguise I find are pramox and pyrantel. Moxidectin can be tricky but just needs a bit more yumminess.
Strongid p and ivermectin ones are the easiest. You could get wormer in tablet form a year or so ago (in the UK), but these are hard to come by now. If your horse likes polos, it is very easy to slip in a tablet among the polos.
This has worked for all of them, including ones that were very sensitive to detecting wormer or difficult to handle.

Yes.. .it was Pramox he rumbled today.. it does have a rather acrid smell. I did notice the wormers are tough to find now in granule or tablets. Thanks so much for the help Juno.

 

[JackFrost]

Yes.. .it was Pramox he rumbled today.. it does have a rather acrid smell. I did notice the wormers are tough to find now in granule or tablets. Thanks so much for the help Juno.

As well as smelling disgusting, Pramox also has reports of occasional bad reactions, so for your annual regime, maybe do just moxidectin (equest) in the autumn, and do him for tape on another occasion with one of the ivermectin + tape wormers, as they seem to be more palatable. My very fussy one will accept equest disguised in feed much better than pramox. I mix from the syringe with a bit of treacle first, as this seems to hide the smell, then mix that into the feed.

 

[millikins]

Lots of sugar in apple sauce. Use the stewed apple for a couple of days beforehand. LOTS of sugar.

We always sneaked it into our pony mixed in stewed apple.

 

[Regandal]

In the feed, lots of chopped apple and grated carrot mixed through.

 

[Loughlin]

Kept him on the misery half acre with the pony overnight and he wolfed it in alfafa this morning... thanks everyone! These horses - my hair is crispy!

 

[Lipglosspukka]

Kept him on the misery half acre with the pony overnight and he wolfed it in alfafa this morning... thanks everyone! These horses - my hair is crispy!

Yay. All that drama and it's as easy as that ?

 

[Loughlin]