I wish for the horse's sake............

Maesfen

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I wish that all of you breaking in young horses before they are fully developed would read, inwardly digest and put into practise what is written here. It would save so many young horses from injury and misery if you did.

On young horses, when to sit the trot and how to develop a good canter...

"Sitting trot makes young horses hollow.

When a horse is only three or four, his bones are not completely formed. The young horse is naturally a little on the forehand, muscles are not yet fully developed....... If we sit the trot on the young horse (as some riders do because they believe it makes them appear a better rider) before the horse has developed the correct muscles, we will start to jam the vertebrae together, the pelvis will lock, and stifles and hocks may become sore from too much ’leg action.’

The horse will become sore and fatigued, his back, ribcage and withers may hurt - making saddling and girthing unpleasant – resulting in the horse quickly developing into a ‘leg mover instead of a body mover’.

It is a chain reaction that cannot be ignored. Only when the horse has found his natural balance under the rider, and has found his rhythm and timing, can we start the sitting trot.

This is also true of canter when often times a horse of any level can benefit from a rider using a light seat or even a ride in two points while doing anything from a canter to a hand gallop.

A good rider must be guided by what he feels beneath him and how he can release the horse’s tension and better its alignment. He should experiment using feel and timing, and analyze his horse’s responses to guide him instead of working by rigid theory alone. "

Excerpt from "Developing the Basics and Understanding Straightness Better by Manolo Mendez, Specialist of in-hand and Classical Equitation with C. Larrouilh" published in the April 2013 issue of Baroque Horse Magazine
 
Good post, i for one never doing sitting trot on a just backed and going horse. Even on my 6yr old i will only do a small amount and he has been going since august last year! Im always trying to explain this to people.
 
Excellent points :)

However, I suspect the majority of people who ought to take heed of them will carry on regardless as they know best...

I know a lovely lady, excellent rider, who has the most beautiful baby 4 yo german warmblood... Unfortunately he is kept in so he doesn't injure himself, and warmed up for 20 mins on the lunge then ridden (well) in draw reins every day. Yes it's what he's always been used to, he looks fab under saddle and is coming on quickly, but...

I get that to bring him on to the competition level he was bred and bought for means lots of correct schooling, but the fluffy bunny side of me just wants to see him having a roll with the sun on his back with a buddy...
 
Good post. A lot of young horses are ruined by inexperienced owners backing them.
There is a reason people charge thousands to back correctly, its a very important part of there education.
Another bug bear is people not wanting to wait so backing a 3 year old and then jumping regularly- disaster waiting to happen!
 
Very good post Maesfen.

I am getting fed up with people asking why my (just turned) four year olds are doing so little. I also get looked at as if I have two heads when I'm teaching and ask people to "slow your rising to come forward to walk" rather than using sitting trot through their transitions.
 
Good post. I am backing my three year old this year, but it will only be as far as a walk out on a short 'hack' with another horse, no lunging and no circles. People keep saying 'but he is so big, you want to break him in now before he gets bigger and too strong' it is like we are looking at it from completely opposite sides, I see a big gangly baby and they see a fight waiting to happen.
 
Excellent point and many people I know could learn a lot from it if they would only listen. A skill they seem to lack! GRRRR!

The breeder of my clyde x cob Tedbert came to see him the other day and asked if I'd been on IT'S back yet? IT? 'It's' a he and no I havent I replied! I just shook my head in disbelief and frustration. Bottom line is he would of broke him to harness by now (he's 2) and hammered him down the road in a cart....thats the best way of course before they get too big and strong and dare to have a mind of their own and make mistakes whilst trying to do the right thing and understand what the hell you're talking about.

Tedbert isn't 3 until July and there is no way in hell I be backing him yet. He's way too immature but we are having great fun with ground work and clicker...all the time building up a great relationship. It makes my blood run cold when I think what could of happened to him (and many like him) in the wrong hands.

All of us that are listening and learning are flying the flag for a better way! Keep up the good work. x
 
Good points, but needs to be extended to ANY freshly backed horse, even my *cough* 13 yr old (she was meant to be a companion, in my defence!). ;)
 
Good post. I am backing my three year old this year, but it will only be as far as a walk out on a short 'hack' with another horse, no lunging and no circles. People keep saying 'but he is so big, you want to break him in now before he gets bigger and too strong' it is like we are looking at it from completely opposite sides, I see a big gangly baby and they see a fight waiting to happen.

^^This. I will do very little with my 3 yr old Dales this year. I want him sound and happy for life and ready physically and mentally for his ridden education. I hate seeing youngsters rushed.
 
Thanks for the comments but I can't take the credit for finding the article I'm afraid, a 'friend' posted it on FB so I borrowed it as it's what a lot of us have been saying for a long time and been considered old fashioned; I was just so glad to see that someone so well regarded is saying the same thing!
 
I agree, I'm not into backing riding horses before 4. Having all the tack on and longlining with all the tack on is fine. Even having somone lean over or sit is fine but when people start riding them at this age I want to scream :(
 
I'm waiting for someone to mention racing then watch this all kick off :rolleyes:

Why would it kick off? Racehorses aren't ridden in sitting trot with their heads pulled in going round in circles and neither do jockeys ride 'heavy' in canter/gallop.

Good points Maesfen - nothing wrong with old fashioned. I sat for 10 strides last night in trot - my boy will be 6 end of July. Plenty early enough.
 
Does anyone do a lot of sitting trot on your horses outside of some of the baroque trainers.

I find it a lot easier to ask for lateral work in sitting trot than rising - mainly I'm so uncoordinated I cant time rising and asking for sideways at the same time.

I'm also like CPT, I really enjoy sitting trot on a conformtable horse who is strong enough to support the work.

When I was riding in switzerland, up to 40 minutes each lesson was in sitting trot - it does wonders for your core muscles that's for sure!
 
We are currently having our 4yr old backed. He is in my picture. He is only worked under saddle for about 10 minutes and none of this is in sitting trot. He is well handled and groomed regularly. My granddaughter can pick his feet out without any problems and he is very well behaved. He is being backed at our yard by the YO. She backed our other pony for us and he is so well behaved when anyone wants a quiet ride for their friends or children we are often asked if they can use him. I think a little bit at a time and no uneccessary stress and strain can make a lot of difference to the final outcome.
 
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