Iberian types and jumping

[ClobellsandBaubles]

Just pondering whilst I should be writing my very long report due very soon, why do Iberian type horses have a reputation for not being good at jumping?

I am quite curious as to where it comes from. I mean they are well known for their ability to perform classical dressage movements and various airs above the ground which to my mind involves lots of leaping etc why should that not translate to leaping over things

 

[Herts05]

Not sure where it came from , but be assured they CAN jump. Think there was a previous thread regarding this. Also, how many people remember the lovely Novilheiro who was ridden by Michael Whitaker before going back to Portugal.
I'm hoping that my rising 2 part bred Luso with Novilheiro lines will have a good pop on him and my 15.2 PRE jumps 1'10" with absolute ease and with room to spare

 

[team barney]

Iberian horses tend to be schooled towards dressage with many of them never being introduced to jumping.

There are a few iberians out there proving their talents in the jumping arena.

Icon, Lusitano/Arabian stallion, I can't find his website anymore but he had a nice little pop on him


Novilheiro, pure bred lusitano stallion, he went to grade A with one of the Whittakers.

Crown Cornelion, by Novilheiro, another talented jumper

Tourmaline Rose, Crown Rhodonite, Crown Derby are all part bred Lusitanos

 

[vallin]

I think this maybe in part due to their reputation for not being good at galloping so no good for XC, Hunting etc thus extending to jumpng full stop. In my (granted limited) experiences they tend to have a fabulous jump (and in Working Equitation they are required to jump so must be able to), however often strugge to go on 'a long one', though this may in part be down to their prior training. They also tend to be smaller, so not something you would typicall look at a go 'oh he looks like a good jumper'. However the more modern breeding i.e. lighter, less baroque often tend to have much more of a 'jumpers frame' ie slightly longer in the back, resumably making it easier to produce a nice shape over a fence...
Anywho I may well be talking c***, but have spent the day revising emotion memory and different forms of learning so who can blame me

 

[Equibrit]

It may have to do with conformation, more precisely, length of back.

 

[Chico Mio]

Most of the PREs I know have never been taught to jump because it is not what people want them to do here - they want them for Doma, either Alta or Vaquera. it seems to be horses for courses, people who want to jump buy 'jumping' horses - TBs, Hanoverians, Dutch Warmbloods etc . SPORT horses. Because they aren't seen jumping, ergo they cannot jump! I must say, none of my YO's PREs can jump for toffee, but my PRE X can.