Ideas on Stallions for my TB event mare

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I am currently trying to decide which stallion to use with my mare next season. The mare is just over 15hh, very fine pure TB, By Chaddleworth. She has Nijinsky lines on her dam line.

She has the most amazing temperament, and is the most straightforward horse I have ever had the pleasure of dealing with in all respects. She evented successfully to CCI* level, never getting any XC jumping penalties (and very few time penalties!), she is brave as they come, yet always sane and sensible, she is the most straightforward horse i've ever ridden. She would have gone Intermediate, but she had an old injury from her racing days, which finally caught up with her.

She had a lovely filly in June, By Sempers Spirit. The foal gained a first premium at the BEF Futurity in the eventing section, and was the best coloured of the day.

Picture of her eventing

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Unfortunatly havn't got one of her standing up square on this computer for you to see conformation, but her weak areas are:

*Her feet are pretty flat, and quite weak and brittle
*She is very fine, so needs a bit of bone added
*Would like foal to be at least 15.2hh+, but no bigger than 16.2hh
*Hasn't got the best paces, they are long and flat.
*She is a little bay TB mare, so would like some 'presence' added.

Here is a picture of her foal

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And a cute picture of them in the snow!

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So any ideas!!!!!!!! Preferably not a pure TB as I want a bit of bone added, but open to suggesstions!!!!!!!
 
Sport Horse....ID x TB..registered of course. Go to IDHS (GB) and click on the stallion link to see the sport horses.

Nice little mare btw!
 
I will watch this thread with interest because I think it is incredibly difficult to find the right event stallion for a light boned TB mare, that has the right combination of good bone, good movement and jump and is a real eventing type stallion, & gives you confidence that it will produce sound offspring. A lot of stallions about seem very light of bone.

Cant think of any really at the top of my head, but would look up Irish stallions- there is royal concorde who has a video on youtube which is who I used on my light TB mare to produce an eventer. He has the bone/toughness/scope/barvery and enough foot that you would need for a tough eventer, probably doesnt have the extravagant movement that you want but he has enough presence I think.
Oh the other one to look up would be Puissance- he is Irish, has a bit more movement and is one of the top event sires. Very suspect temperment in himself and his offspring but its obviously not stopped them all succeeding. Hopefully your girl's good nature would even that out a bit. His stock look like they can stand up to eventing- look up all of Sam Watsons horses.
 
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Perhaps you may like to have a look at Penrhyn Dictator, he is a super little Cleveland Bay standing 16 hands. He has worked at medium level dressage and has sired many successful show horses.

Sorry I dont have a link but sure you will find him through google
 
Very sorry but you cant go wrong with an ID and in particular....
www.avantistud.com

Ive put him on my TB mare this year, i went looking for the same weakness improvements, although my girl has the paces i needed the bone, and shorter coupling.

Cant recomend this stallion enough, he is a super star with fab conformation and attitude to die for!

Whatever stallion you choose make sure you actually go and see them in the flesh so you get a real feel for them!

Good luck :-)
 
charlimouse said:
I am currently trying to decide which stallion to use with my mare next season. The mare is just over 15hh, very fine pure TB, By Chaddleworth. She has Nijinsky lines on her dam line.

She has the most amazing temperament, and is the most straightforward horse I have ever had the pleasure of dealing with in all respects. She evented successfully to CCI* level, never getting any XC jumping penalties (and very few time penalties!), she is brave as they come, yet always sane and sensible, she is the most straightforward horse i've ever ridden. She would have gone Intermediate, but she had an old injury from her racing days, which finally caught up with her.

She had a lovely filly in June, By Sempers Spirit. The foal gained a first premium at the BEF Futurity in the eventing section, and was the best coloured of the day.

Picture of her eventing

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Unfortunatly havn't got one of her standing up square on this computer for you to see conformation, but her weak areas are:

*Her feet are pretty flat, and quite weak and brittle
*She is very fine, so needs a bit of bone added
*Would like foal to be at least 15.2hh+, but no bigger than 16.2hh
*Hasn't got the best paces, they are long and flat.
*She is a little bay TB mare, so would like some 'presence' added.

Here is a picture of her foal

IMG_9771.jpg


And a cute picture of them in the snow!

IMG_0776.jpg


So any ideas!!!!!!!! Preferably not a pure TB as I want a bit of bone added, but open to suggesstions!!!!!!!
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Ideal sort of mare for a Welsh Part-bred horse stallion;will get athleticism,bone and toughness.
 
I used Don Aqui on my mare to breed an event type. He stands at Morayfirth Stud and is worth a look.

ETA - foal arrived this year and was 1 mark off a higher first premium in the eventing section, out of a mare who is SJ bred. Foalie is a very nice person and by all accounts does move, though I rarely get to see him move.
 
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maestro said:
Ganton Rufus is one of my old favourites with good competition bloodlines, certainly worth checking up on.
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That's the one; reckon you and I might know each other - bred by George Coombe and myself?! The one on page 20 this week's HH is by him, and many other competing youngsters.
 
I used Brief Encounter on my tb mare in order to breed myself an eventer, my filly is lovely - she can really move and has a good amount of bone! My mare has bags of scope but not the best movement and she is also quite hot headed so i chose BE for his movement and temperament. Here are some pics in case you are interested:
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Losing baby coat hence looking like a scruff bag in this pic!!
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Last pic is at about 5months
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She is 7 months now and we have just begun to wean her which is being very chilled about!
 
I think we may have what you are looking for 16.2hh Graded grade C SJ & 3/4 TB 1/4 ID type. reg Weatherbys NTR

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And sire of these progeny his best foals are out of fine TBs and are truly stunning his first crop are 4 year olds next year he has had placed youngstock at Bramham 09 10. plain and coloured he himself is from a sucessful family of Event stock.
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yearling gelding.
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His racehorse son 16.1hh at nearly 3
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our filly out of a 13.3hh and the filly is 15.1hh at 3.
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filly foal from this year.
if you would like to come and see himself for yourself please PM me we are in Yorks
He is a family friend and is great with very small children, and his own family.
 
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Sorry I forgot to mention Ricco will give your mare more bone and very good movement he has a very good long stride his racing son has movement of a dressage horse and I was at our trainers yesterday and I was told he jumps with great ease, and he is a flat horse.
Ricco pedigree is superb he is by Captain maverick who William Micklem has Identified as a sire of not as he sired the Puissance horse Sarahs Pride.
Riccos dam side you have the event line the Stallion Zhivago by the same sire as Mcraffles Zhivago went on to sire Mr Todd & Tullibards Shakepear, both Eventers,who in turn have sired advanced event horses including Cornsay Grouse, 316 BE points, and Kilfinnie with 451 BE points, and have competed at Burghley.
hope this helps
 
If you are interested in using a younger less proven stallion then Mr Darco might be of interest.

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He would definitely suit a TB mare as he is very powerful and athletic and would add the bone and movement you are looking for, he stands at 16.1. He is mainly BWB with a bit of ISH on his Dam side, he is by Unbelievable Darco out of a Zarlequin mare.

He has a great scopey jump and moves very well with powerful paces and will be out eventing himself next year. He has a fab temperament and his 2 offspring have both got his athleticism and movement.

http://www.stallionsonline.co.uk/stallion_29231.html

Darco's Casanova 2010 Colt out of a TB x KWPN mare
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Darco's Harlot 2009 Filly out of a WB x (Welsh/Arab) mare
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We are in Yorkshire just 8 miles from Thirsk, and both his offspring and their Dam's are available to view with us.
 
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Not sure if anybody has mentioned Grafenstolz yet? He's currently top of my list for my smallish filly next year. Some super Grafenstolz youngsters at the futurity this year.
 
Another suggestion would be El Thuder at Brendon Stud. He is WB (Holstein) but contains a very high % of TB blood in him through Ladykiller, etc. His sire is Thunder vd Zuuthoeve (Argentinus) and he himself has teh most amazing temperament. I have had 2 foals by him - one out of a WPB mare and the other a WB mare....both achieved BEF 1st Prems - the one out of the WPB as a yearling in the SJer section and was reserve high score and the one out of the WB in the eventing section as a foal and yearling and was both years the reserve high score. He throws VERY blood foals to all types of mares (I have seen a huge variety of foals by him). All are bay with very little white, huge presence, superb temperaments and are showing huge ability over fences as well as movement.
 
If you would like another coloured, there is always Glenhill Gold, advanced eventer - he is short, excellent feet and decent amount of bone (proper ISH). He may be a bit big though, he stands at 16.3 (i think).
He produces lovely foals with lovely temperments, great moving too. My friend has 3 foals from him, the oldest is 3 this year, and very nice, good markings too.
Plus my boy is by him, and he is the best :D

Or cross with a connie - templebrady fiar bui, or Jack sparrow

This horse is nice -http://www.ballinteggartstud.com/showstallion.php?jid=5
He has produced a horse which I am in love with, she is eventing and has just won a 1*! Lovely lovely mare, quite sharp, but seriously talented.

RID - http://www.ballinteggartstud.com/showstallion.php?jid=10

Or this one looks nice!
http://www.highlandviewlodge.com/stallions.asp
 
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