If everybody's horse hunting why arent they selling?

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I have read many posts about people horse hunting and not being able to find something suitable.

However my mare has been for sale for a week now and i have only had two calls, one wasnt suitable and the other said she would phone back but she hasnt.

She's a nice mare aswell, would make a super show pony and genuine reason for sale at this time of year.

Can you have a look in my ad and see if there is anything i may have put that people might be misinterpreting or putting people off?

http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/marketplace/classified/180-details-horses-for-sale-under-3000_262798.htm

Thanks xx
 
The main issue for me would be why is she still green in the school at 12? It sounds like she is great for hacking though, but I'm assuming most happy hackers won't be horse hunting at this time of year. All the people I know who are horse hunting now are looking for a horse to do a bit more with. Does she jump?
 
it does mention one dressage result as i have only competed one comp with her - but she did win that with 72%. - oops just realised i had to edit the ad fro H&H and took the dressage result out

She is still green as she was imported from germany as an 8 year old (where she was ridden) but has been a broodmare for a few years and restarted just over a year ago.

She schools in walk, trot, canter, has good bend, leg yields, turn on forehand etc - am i not giving her enough credit - would you consider that as green?

She does jump but i havent done alot of jumping with her
 
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I have had my boy advertised for two weeks and not one phone call :confused:

I also sold a pony at the end of summer had him advertised for 6 weeks before I got a call and she bought him.

Have looked at your ad and can't see anything wrong with it and your girl is lovely just think its that time of year.
 
I think it is the time of year! May I ask why you're selling? I think you would have much more luck to re advertise after the new year!

I'm horse hunting, but am putting it off till the spring as all that I have viewed in the winter have been under slightly suspicious circumstances.
 
I'm horse hunting. I did see her add, and did think she looked lovely, and sounded very much like what I want. To be honest though, I've been so busy with work/Christmas stuff, and with the bad weather taking more time to care for my current horse, I haven't called back on any adds this week, as I wouldn't have had time to go and view. So this could be true of many people at the mo.
I did put her link on my 'short list' though! My only reservation is her height, I was looking for something more 15h-15.2, as I'm 11 st, and also would be nice to have something capable of carry OH for a few strolls around the paddock.
 
selling as she was supposed to be on full term loan until next summer but last weekend the loaners pulled out due to financial reasons and left me high and dry.
I have this mares 4 year old gelding who i am bringing on to compete sj next year so i simply dont have time to support two.

I had always planned on selling the mare when the loaners finished but wasnt expecting it quite so soon!!!
 
Crazy Dancer & Prancer said:
I did put her link on my 'short list' though! My only reservation is her height, I was looking for something more 15h-15.2, as I'm 11 st, and also would be nice to have something capable of carry OH for a few strolls around the paddock.
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she is a very hardy little mare - she wouldnt have problems wondering around the paddock with your OH ;)
 
If you mentioned the broodmare part I would think
1) she is good enough to breed from (have the foals been shown at all? Mention that maybe)
2) there is a genuine reason for her not having done much

I would use the dressage win of 72% as a selling point.

I wouldn't consider the schooling as green necessarily, unless she was very spooky or not yet cantering on the correct lead etc. Just sounds like she is working at novice level which is fine, but obviously difficult to tell without seeing her ridden. Why does she need an experienced rider if she is willing? I am not nit picking, its just that the advert is a little contradictory, like on one hand she's a straightforwards horse and on the other she's green and not a novice ride :confused:
 
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i dont get why its such a major issue being a little green at 12?

i bought my horse at 12 and he is a little green, he has lovely schooling and can jump , but its as he was used for hacking for two years, the women sold him as he was totally wasted she said he was a great jumper and thats what he should be doing, yes he is green as he has only been to 6 shows, but doesnt mean that thats a bad thing?

he has the kindest nature, and is very very safe, never bucked bolted, reared kicked or bitten, he is lovely,

its not the horses fault, its what they have been used for
 
thanks for the hints.

I guess i am just trying to be honest about her.

Perhaps she isnt so green then. She needs an experienced rider in the school as she is sensitive to the balance of the rider and can get unnerved by a beginner or novice bouncing around on her back.

She hasnt done alot this year due to a mix or bad weather (completely frozen menage and lanes) at stars of year, did a fair bit in spring, some showing through summer, then went on loan and loaners havent ridden her as much as i would have liked.
 
Kirsty+Java said:
i dont get why its such a major issue being a little green at 12?
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The issue for most people is why buy a green 12 year old when you could just buy a green youngster and mould it yourself, less chance of age related problems and less wear and tear. The reason someone would be looking at a 12 year old in the first place would be because it HAD more experience, ie ready to go out and have fun on, or a schoolmaster to learn on.

PMP she sounds like a nice little horse and I'm sure you'll find a good home for her, just maybe not until this awful weather is over!
 
She is a very attractive little mare, but I would like to see a photo of her moving under saddle - a clear trot or canter photo taken sideways on so the potential purchaser has a better idea of her ability and schooling. Definitely put the bit back in about her gaining 72% at dressage, more important than whether she is a good doer etc. (Although the level that is achieved at is quite important too - 72% in a local walk and trot test is not as impressive as 72% at affiliated novice!)

I'm presuming she doesn't jump from the ad, so that will put off a lot of children looking for a 14.2 as they usually like something that will do a bit of everything.

She does fall into a funny category as at 12yo a lot of buyers will expect her to be there, done it, got the t-shirt. If they buy a green 5yo and put lots of work in the value will increase, but not likely to be the case with a green 12yo.
 
dressager said:
The issue for most people is why buy a green 12 year old when you could just buy a green youngster and mould it yourself, less chance of age related problems and less wear and tear. The reason someone would be looking at a 12 year old in the first place would be because it HAD more experience, ie ready to go out and have fun on, or a schoolmaster to learn on.

PMP she sounds like a nice little horse and I'm sure you'll find a good home for her, just maybe not until this awful weather is over!
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I think you will be better bringing her on over winter then re-selling in march/april time...
 
Im horse hunting at the moment. I was due to view a horse this weekend but have decided due to the weather to postpone until after Xmas when hopefully the weather will be better. Also some proper ridden and side photos of the horse are good.
 
Your advert translates to me as I read between the lines (and it is human nature for people to do this even if it isn't -

"requires a confident experienced rider for schooling to bring out her best"

She is quite naughty and needs someone who won't take no for an answer

"needs a balanced competent rider to help her confidence"

She needs someone who won't tip forward and cause her to unbalance and frighten her causing her to rush off around the arena

"I would like an understanding home"

She has problems that need tactful handling and I don't want someone who will be rough with her

"No history of laminitis or sweet itch"

But she does weave, crib bite and headshake

Sorry but I would be quite suspicious of some of the things you have said even if this wasn't the intention.

I would shorten your ad - its too long and some of these things are best said in conversation rather than in cold print.
 
sussexbythesea said:
Your advert translates to me as I read between the lines (and it is human nature for people to do this even if it isn't -

"requires a confident experienced rider for schooling to bring out her best"

She is quite naughty and needs someone who won't take no for an answer

"needs a balanced competent rider to help her confidence"

She needs someone who won't tip forward and cause her to unbalance and frighten her causing her to rush off around the arena

"I would like an understanding home"

She has problems that need tactful handling and I don't want someone who will be rough with her

"No history of laminitis or sweet itch"

But she does weave, crib bite and headshake

Sorry but I would be quite suspicious of some of the things you have said even if this wasn't the intention.

I would shorten your ad - its too long and some of these things are best said in conversation rather than in cold print.
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oops i obviously havent put the right things then!

She isnt naughty and listens well to the rider.

You are right that she doesnt like people tipping forward and this is a problem as her canter is very elevated and has a alot of movement, if you are tipping forward you will plop off the front (i did, lol, not her fault but mine) but if you sit back there are no probems.

She doesnt have problems being handled etc but of course i dont want anyone who will be rough with her, dont think anyone would want that for their pony :)

And definately no weaving or crib biting - i did hade 'vice free' in the first draft but that got cut out.

Sadly as for no photos of her moving under saddle is because i never have anyone with me when i ride so no-one to take photos! Even when i take my camera to the yard and the livery girls promise to come and take some they never remember. I was planning on getting some done this week but weather and the dreaded lurgy have set those plans aside.
 
I think calling her green is putting her down unnecessarily really. When I see "green" and "needs bringing on" in terms of flatwork I would think a horse that was a bit unbalanced, maybe wouldn't work in an outline or at least a consistant one, and would need a fair bit of schooling to get up to a level where they would get good scores in a dressage test.


I would say it is definitely worth saying that she needs a sensitive rider, but I would focus on the positives definitely. And talk up any competition record.

You also need to mention her jumping - even if you don't jump much I would say if she has happy to jump a course of 2ft6, 2ft9, 3ft - whatever it is!

Finally, the lack of ridden pics is a big put off for me. After all, it is no effort to take a camera down to the school one day and take some ridden pictures in w/t/c to show the horse off, and pop a few fences. A lack of ridden pics would make me think that there was a reason for it.
 
Paint Me Proud said:
Sadly as for no photos of her moving under saddle is because i never have anyone with me when i ride so no-one to take photos! Even when i take my camera to the yard and the livery girls promise to come and take some they never remember. I was planning on getting some done this week but weather and the dreaded lurgy have set those plans aside.
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No non horsey friends, OH, YO, instructor that you could bribe? Even if you bring a camera yourself, rest it on the fence and record a video that you can take stills off it would be better than nothing. I can't stress enough how important good photos are!
 
The people who have said they will film me never get around to it. And none of my family take good photos, lol!
You hae no idea how many people i have asked and no-one ever does it, however i have taken loads of other liveries with my slr camera, oh well.

Once the snow has gone i will take my tripod, camcorder and just point and hope for the best, lol!
 
xspiralx said:
No non horsey friends, OH, YO, instructor that you could bribe? Even if you bring a camera yourself, rest it on the fence and record a video that you can take stills off it would be better than nothing. I can't stress enough how important good photos are!
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Yes ditto this! Good photos really matter - you don't get a second chance to make a good first impression ;)
I have been looking for a childrens pony recently and saw one I really liked that I was very keen to go and see. I later realised it had been advertised about 10 days earlier with rubbish photos and it had not caught my attention at all then even though I had seen the advert!
 
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