if I seem a little cross...

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It might be because it's starting to look like the majority of horses my friends are buying have hidden health issues.

Why is no one in this country capable of having ill horses treated or put down? Are we really such a nation of animal lovers that we can bitch and moan about how much racehorses suffer, and then bute up horses and sell them to people without mentioning the fact they're unrideable???

It's disgusting. Why can't anyone just sell a horse for what it is anymore!
 
I'll beat Pedantic to it..........
Nation of horsey a****s!

Unfortunatly it seems that it's a pass me a buck and i'll pass the buck thing.
 
a horse that i know was up for sale for 10k last year is entered in exeter sales next week, do you know he is such a wonderful horse. and tbh id rather he was put down cause hes lame then go through exeter.
 
pastie2 said:
Its National weekend Cat, we will have weeks of this after the race, because these racehorses are so badly treated, made to do what comes naturally. Lets leave them in a bluddy field and when they are old get them cremated and put them in your bedroom. FFS!!
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I know it's late and i should be in bed, and i know i am sooo easily confused , But, pastie dear you have confused me further than i have been confused for a long time.

What the feck are you trying to say!! :D
 
Fii said:
I know it's late and i should be in bed, and i know i am sooo easily confused , But, pastie dear you have confused me further than i have been confused for a long time.

What the feck are you trying to say!! :D
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i think it'd in reference to the daily mail slaughter thread :p
 
pastie2 said:
Its National weekend Cat, we will have weeks of this after the race, because these racehorses are so badly treated, made to do what comes naturally. Lets leave them in a bluddy field and when they are old get them cremated and put them in your bedroom. FFS!!
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What makes me cross is that I'm pretty sure that racehorse owners don't sell each other crippled animals... they abuse them so much, they're just a commodity... blah blah blah... and yet it's PET HORSES who are really suffering... ridden by people who have no idea how to ride and hurt them, starved, beaten for trying to tell their owners they're in pain...

If that happened in racing, there'd be an uproar! Let it happen to the same ponies these people love, and it's all okay... because they love them...

The only reason I can see for racing to be banned is that owners don't love racehorses. Well, if love is forcing them to suffer, I don't love Dorey either.

Humph.
 
For the first time in my life I sold a 3 year old gelding ready to be backed last spring I was confident to sell him with no problems or faults I had 1 lady come and look at him and decided to buy him there & then without having him vetted.
She gave me a deposit and arranged to pick him up the next day..... 2 weeks later she rang me and said "come over and see him" when we got there he was tacked up and in the menage they had backed him using Parelli and my handsome boy was thoroughly enjoying himself, in the year she has had him he is ridden bridleless and does "TRICKS" and she loves him to bits.
She regularly send me photos and I'm going to see him tomorrow, so this is a sale that has gone perfectly.
 
The saddest thing I saw was at Reading Horse Sales years and years ago. Stood in a miserable pen was a sad big black tb stallion; only he didn't look like a stallion he was so thin with hips stuck out and every rib visible.
They proudly announced that this was so and so and he still held the fastest furlong record at Doncaster or suchlike. The poor old chap was around 19 or 20 years - I thought well so much for being fast and holding a record how could soemone leave him to get in such a state.
It doesn't usually happen in racing - if they get sick or lame they are pts and that saves further suffering.
We have dreadful dealers around here repeatedly selling horses with navicular, wobblers, stringhalt to unsuspecting purchasers. But then these sellers are not horse lovers!
 
I have sold two, ostensibly damaged horses. Always for a sensible price and always - always - with the buyer knowing their fault/injury.
Murphy walked like a demented duck, god bless him, but the lady who bought him only wanted to hack and she LOVED him totally. I don't see why people lie - well I do - PROFIT.
 
It makes me sick to know there are people like this. I don't know if I'm being extreme, but if it were me, I would be over-ridden with guilt. I couldn't live with myself lying to people and fobbing off these poor horses.

Years ago, when I was 15, I remember getting a new horse. We travelled a fair distance to get him and had agreed with the seller's to have a 2 week trial in which we would get him vetted. When we got him home we got him vetted and had all sorts wrong with him. Turned out the seller had buted him up to cover up his problems. When she came to pick him up, she tried to charge us petrol money - what a cheek!! I will never understand how people can do this with no thought or hint of guilt.
 
Often because everybody wants to get some money back. The breeder who puts a a lot into breeding and raising a foal expects to sell it to get that back and continue what they do, only the very responsible ones would pts a young horse that's not right. Then there's the person who buys the young horse to break/bring on and sell for a profit, often for their livelihood. They expect money back and when a horse shows up problems, again only the very responsible ones will kiss goodbye to the purchase price and pts, most will try to sell on and get back what they can, to...

The person who wants a young horse to have years of fun with plus the option to sell on at around 9 - 12 years old. Paying the purchase price covering the last two's input which is probably a good few £££s. Now, if the horse comes with an unsoundness that is a lot of money to write off, and insurance (which people should have, including LOU, but many don't which is another big part of the problem) doesn't cover pre-existing conditions. The only way to get any money back in this situation is to try to get it back from the sellers, or more likely, sell on to another mug, often through sales livery.

If the horse doesn't come with problems, but breaks down with this owner, if they have LOU insurance they will claim back that large amount of the purchase price to go towards replacing the riding horse and either pts or retire the unsound one, unless they are really deluded and fluffy and think giving it away is a good idea. If they don't have LOU insurance, many don't, and the £££s horse breaks down young, they won't get any money to get another riding horse, all those years of fun down the toliet. They will often get it as sound as they can and sell it for either whatever workload it can do cheaply, or sell it very deviously for £££s hiding the issue. If it is sold cheaply, it will likely be to someone who sees the opportunity to then sell it deviously for £££s, so we pretty much end up in the same place.

The horse sells to someone not mega-experienced wanting a schoolmaster. Perhaps expecting to learn a lot from its experience, probably planning to use it for its teenage years then wind things down and keep it into retirement - Still expecting quite a bit of value for their money, but the same thing happens as above. They get a lame/head-shaking/crazy/whatever horse for their £££s, and they still want their years of fun so want that money back. The horse is sold.

The horse ends up changing hands quickly between people who it won't be with long enough for them to owe it anything or for insurance to give them any money back, these people will all take a loss on the horse, alternating with people who see the horse as a money making opportunity by buying as unsound and selling it as sound. All this while the problem is becoming harder to hide, the horse is becoming older, the value is getting lower, the type of homes it goes to being more inexperienced, the sales it goes through being dodgier, etc, etc.

There ends my essay.
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