If you saw a photo of your child in the "riots".....

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... would you take them to the police station to hand them in? I was just reading an article regarding some parents who have done just that and i applaud them for it.

What are your thoughts?

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Yes, i would certainly hand them in! I wouldnt do as MrsD123 is suggesting, simply because its not only their life put on hold, but their parents too if they were to be grounded etc etc etc.
 
No I think that would do no good, unless they were doing something criminal, obviously you would have to take in to consideration their general attitude and previous., if they stole stuff then they would have to take the stuff back to the shop owner, in person
 
They would be down the police station sooner than they could say uh oh! IT is not up to parents to protect children from the consequences of their actions and any who knowingly do not hand their children in shoudl be facing punishment themselves. The parents failed to keep tabs on the kids, the kids took part in acts very wrong, very criminal and very worrying.
 
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MrsD123 said:
No I think that would do no good, unless they were doing something criminal, obviously you would have to take in to consideration their general attitude and previous., if they stole stuff then they would have to take the stuff back to the shop owner, in person
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I am asking about pics posted by the police to help to "round up" those who may have taken part in criminal activities.
 
MrsD123 said:
No I think that would do no good, unless they were doing something criminal, obviously you would have to take in to consideration their general attitude and previous., if they stole stuff then they would have to take the stuff back to the shop owner, in person
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So you would not hand them in?
The mere fact they were involved in a riot would have been illegal. And that "if they had stolen"......er looted you mean? Walked into someone's livelihood and taken what did not belong to them!
Consequences to actions, big enough to do the crime.....
Am glad too see one council starting eviction proceedings against one rioter!
 
Yup - they would be marched to the local police station and made to face the consequences of their actions. And if the law didnt provide a punishment then I sure as hell would!
 
Hevs said:
Yup - they would be marched to the local police station and made to face the consequences of their actions. And if the law didnt provide a punishment then I sure as hell would!
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Yup and so would my parent have had I had the audacity and idiocy to raid shops and cause public disorder.

More people need to turn theor kids/relatives in.
 
Oh I see, so these are photos of people who the police are ready to prosecute, well that might be different.
I was thinking they might get "a caution" , but if the parent was going to lose their subsidised house they won't do it, will they?
It is more likely the neighbours will hand them in anyway.
 
MrsD123 said:
It is more likely the neighbours will hand them in anyway.
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Why the hell should your neighbours have to hand YOUR child in after they have been involved in rioting?! I actually can't believe that that is your view! How totally irresponsible!

As a parent it is YOUR responsibility to ensure your child has respect for you, themselves and everyone around them, and also to ensure that your child is polite and helpful. If your child has been involved in ANY criminal activity then you are obviously lacking.
 
I think MrsD123 meant that a parent who was afraid of being evicted would not hand their own child in so it would be up to the neighbours.
 
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Plus I agree with you BbutH about it being parents responsibility but don't think it is always clearcut. Obviously some parents are negligent but sometimes children of the nicest, most responsible parents just seem to go through a wild phrase and they just can't seem to do anything about it. Peer influence takes over from parental influence in the teenage years.
 
I would do both - march 'em up to police station AND punish them myself.

That said, it just wouldn't happen . . . this may come back to bite me on the behind, but I always know where my girls are and who they are with - and they were raised to have respect for a) the law; b) other people; c) other people's property.

Parents who don't know where their 13-year-olds are on a weeknight need holding to account. End of.

P

P.S. Oh, and, yes grounding them would cause me/us considerable inconvenience, but that's part of being a parent. If I'm not prepared to put myself out to teach them how to behave and would rather do what's easy for me then what message does that send my kids?
 
spider said:
Plus I agree with you BbutH about it being parents responsibility but don't think it is always clearcut. Obviously some parents are negligent but sometimes children of the nicest, most responsible parents just seem to go through a wild phrase and they just can't seem to do anything about it. Peer influence takes over from parental influence in the teenage years.
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Agree with this, most of us are fortunate enough to come from backgrounds where we have learnt right from wrong, some of the kids in the riots would have come from horrible backgrounds where the parents have not instilled any kind of morals in their children. Also there is the "group mentality" where otherwise "sensible" kids get caught up in the moment and do something completely out of character.

I have to add that i am not in least bit sure that removing benefits and housing will have any kind of positive outcome.
 
Allover said:
Agree with this, most of us are fortunate enough to come from backgrounds where we have learnt right from wrong, some of the kids in the riots would have come from horrible backgrounds where the parents have not instilled any kind of morals in their children. Also there is the "group mentality" where otherwise "sensible" kids get caught up in the moment and do something completely out of character.

I have to add that i am not in least bit sure that removing benefits and housing will have any kind of positive outcome.
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I have to agree here.

I'm also concerned about this two-tier punishment.

If you are from a more affluent background you may get a fine and a prison sentence.
But if your family are on benefits you will get a fine, a prison sentence and your family will be removed from their home.

Why should poorer people have a more severe sentence?

In answer to the OP, I can't imagine my two being involved with anything like what I witnessed on TV (But I bet there are many other parents saying that), but if they did I hope I would be strong enough to turn them into the police.
 
Agree 100% Gingercat, removing benefits is IMO a "knee jerk" reaction and the consequences (sp) have not been thought through. It will only serve to provide even more problems to the less advantaged members of society and lead to more lawlessness.
 
If my child was pictured at a riot then yes I would hand them in. I cannot believe that anyone feels it is acceptable to merely punish the child themselves! Parental responsibility is the key here. If parents accepted their responsibility for their child and that childs behaviour from the beginning, then there would be fewer children getting intp trouble in the first place IMO I also think that if parents actually spent time with their childrem the world would be a better place.
 
PolarSkye said:
Parents who don't know where their 13-year-olds are on a weeknight need holding to account. End of.

P

P.S. Oh, and, yes grounding them would cause me/us considerable inconvenience, but that's part of being a parent. If I'm not prepared to put myself out to teach them how to behave and would rather do what's easy for me then what message does that send my kids?
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13 year olds????? Try living near me! There are a group of 10 year olds and younger who are habitually racketing round until well after 11pm and one night, the other week, it was midnight and I strongly believe the parents were also out that night.
 
Faithkat said:
13 year olds????? Try living near me! There are a group of 10 year olds and younger who are habitually racketing round until well after 11pm and one night, the other week, it was midnight and I strongly believe the parents were also out that night.
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Same here unfortunately, but when you try to confront their parents over their anti social behaviour, sadly it becomes very clear why their children behave the way the do.
 
Allover said:
Agree 100% Gingercat, removing benefits is IMO a "knee jerk" reaction and the consequences (sp) have not been thought through. It will only serve to provide even more problems to the less advantaged members of society and lead to more lawlessness.
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Absolutely agree. The guy in Wandsworth who was in the papers at the end of last week lives in a flat with his mother and 8-year-old sister. He is 18. It would be a very sorry society indeed that persisted in throwing a young child out of her home because her brother committed a crime, and I can't imagine it's even legal.

Also agree with the person who mentioned a two-tier punishment system. The Exeter university student alleged to have driven a getaway car full of looted goods will get to stay in her million-pound house, while the boy in the council flat will end up on the street - along with the rest of his family, whether they have criminal records or not.
 
This was sent to me by another......

Our father, who art in prison,
only mother knows his name.
Thy riots come, read it in the Sun,
in Birmingham as it is in London.
Give us this day our welfare bread,
and forgive us our looting,
as we're happy to loot from those who keep us.
Lead us not into employment,
but deliver us free housing,
for thine is the spliff, the Stella and the coke,
for ever and ever,

Innit.

Off topic a bit, I realise, but it made me smile!

Alec.
 
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