If you were looking for a Loan Horse/Cheaper Horse.....

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Would you reply to this ad. Please be completely honest!
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FOR SALE/PERMANENT LOAN

TB X, 15.3 Liver Chestnut Gelding, 12 years old. Hacks alone or in company, good to catch, shoe and box. Gets placed out showing and is currently starting out with prelim dressage.

Currently ungoing treatment for mild spavins but now starting to fuse. Would probably suit someone who was looking for a forward going but sane happy hacker and to compete at local level dressage and showing.

Blind in one eye due to an accident earlier in life but not noticable and does not bother horse in the slightest!

Heartbreaking sale due to owner returning to study.

£1000 to include tack, with some rugs.

Homes will be vetted.

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He's going out to do dressage tomorrow so will get some action pics.....

Honest opinions please. I think if I don't just get on and advertise him I'm going to end up in an early grave.
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i probably would as i would be happy with just a happy hacker.
hence to say hes blind in one eye well as long as he was safe on the roads etc .. then yes i probably would
 
I would reply but I think that I would ask to have him on trial to ensure that he stayed sound.

I have seen horses go out on loan to happy hacking homes with lots more problems than this.

Good luck finding him a happy and suitable home.
 
Yes, I thought I'd just be honest in the advert as I can't stand 100's of calls that are a waste of time. Hopefully an honest ad will show that I'm not out to fleece anyone!
 
Yes, I would reply if I were looking for that sort of horse. On the negative side though, if he were mine, I would be worried about advertising him with a price. Perhaps say 'for loan with view to sell'. The troube with a low price is that you often get people that aren't really clued up about what they are taking on. I know you have said you will vet homes, but there are some very convincing liars out there.

However, he sounds like a fantastic horse, and it is refreshing to see honesty in an advert.
 
TBH, I'd want someone to come up and school him/hack him and not 'rush in'.

I've met a few buyers now and I think I can weed out the muppets (hopefully!) ha ha
 
I would love to take him on just cant afford three .Not the price the running costs you have described him honestly and well.I have just extended a years loan on daughters pony as she is so good.Is it his spavins that are stopping him jumping or does he not jump anyway.If its spavins once they fuse he can jump again might be useful to add.
 
He does jump indoors quite happily but outdoors he can react quite badly if he's in pain so was just going to explain that on the phone.....
 
i agree with zoe

i would love him but no extra pennies and no more stables..

i think the right person who is to take him on is for life!
and not have him shoved from pillar to post..

he sounds the sort for a one to one . to keep his confidence up with his blindness bless him ...
i do sure hope you do find the right home for him .if i were to take him on i would defo keep him for life ...

the saying is on cars dogs are for life not just for xmas
well in my eyes thats the way with horses too..
i may have a different opinion if i were competing but i dont i just love mine for fun and the pleasure of them as they are such beautiful animals..

plus the bad factor is you live to far away!!!
 
Always the way isn't it? bugger!

Agreed, they should be for life but unfortunately I don't have the facilities or funds to keep them both.....
 
sometimes i wish i did live further down south seem so much nicer .. but they hey i cant complain to what we have here....

hmmmmm i do have a spare field on the other hand lol!!! ohhh heck im to soft! ....
 
Hope I don't offend but he isn't worth £1000 in my opinion.
Anything lame and blind in one eye no matter how well mannered is really only worth the money you would get if you sent them to the meat man (sorry again, I know that sounds brutal) which would be around £300-400. Your tack obviously added to that gives you the true price.
I think I would probably try and find a loan home which would give you control over his destiny..
 
Loan yes, buy no. Purely because I have a broken horse at the minute and I wouldn't buy one that had any known health issues.

That said PR, I think he is a smashing boy and I remember when you posted about possibly selling him last year and I was tempted to PM you.
 
Agreed - I think that a loan home is the way forward too - and I'm much more likely to find what I want if i loan I guess.

Donablue stop messing with me! ha ha
 
I would reply to that, I've loaned a horse with mild arthritic change as a result of injury and its gone so well, and his owner is very pleased with me and how I've brought her horse back into work. So loaning can be successful, but you need to be really clear about what you want for your horse - a good loaner will take this into account and want the best for your horse, and will not disagree with you. I know you will anyway but draw up an extensive loan agreement so that you both know where you stand. I think that loaning will be better than selling for you, you can choose where he goes.
 
If I hadnt found a little gem then I'd have him! wouldnt put me off, I think you will find a home very easily, with tack I'd be tempted to put him on for £1500 to make sure he went to good home.
 
Don't be so silly. You know you would torture yourself for the rest of your life wondering what had happened to him.

I have followed your posts and in a way can understand your dilemma.

But, you have to face facts. He is blind in one eye, is 12? years old, but he is happy in your care.

Wouldn't it benefit the both of you in the long run if you keep him for light hacking etc. when time permits and sell Oscar who would probably fit better into a new home?

I haven't answered your previous posts, but I feel quite strongly that if you sell Ty now, he could end up God knows where in the long run, and for that you would never forgive yourself.

Sorry to be blunt, but I do understand your current dilemma and am merely attempting to save you from potential futuure heartbreak.

As it stands, your advert would attract all the idiots, imbeciles and meat men of this world, who would just see Ty as a one way lucrative ticket to Potters.

Don't want to hurt your feelings - just want you to be aware.


There will be plenty of time for you in the future to buy a competiton horse like Oscar, but there are not a lot available homes in the here and now for a horse like Ty, unless you keep him yourself.


He is your baby, after all.

Permanent loan - yes, if you can get a watertight agreement where you visit regularly, but otherwise - no. Not unless you want to sleep at nights. (Sorry!)
 
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Hope I don't offend but he isn't worth £1000 in my opinion.
Anything lame and blind in one eye no matter how well mannered is really only worth the money you would get if you sent them to the meat man (sorry again, I know that sounds brutal) which would be around £300-400. Your tack obviously added to that gives you the true price.
I think I would probably try and find a loan home which would give you control over his destiny..

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I was just about to say that same thing, he isnt really worth anything, a loan home would be so much better so you can keep your friend with someone who you trust and respect.
 
Well I've advertised him for loan/sale so we'll see what happens - if I'm not happy then he won't go, end of.

I think that there are alot more geninue loan homes out there so hopefully we'll strike gold!
 
Agree with some of what you're saying but yes, I am selfish and Oscar ticks all my boxes as the horse I want. If I can find Ty a great loan home then that will be the way to go I think.

I hacked Ty out today and I wanted to be on Oscar the whole time - I know that's pathetic but just the way it is. Ty is a lovely horse now but i've been through the blood sweat and tears to get him there and that doesn't go away !
 
But, in the last post of yours I read, you were frightened of Oscar and Ty was your baby.

Not knocking any decision you make, but please make sure you have a watertight loan agreement with Ty and if you sell him, you will always be left wondering.

Have a look at some of Enfyn's posts. Not a good idea to sell a blind horse. Best to ensure his future whilst it is still in your hands.

Not being nasty here, just realistic. You don't want to wake up hyperventilating in twenty years time wondering where your horse eventually ended up.
 
Totally agree with what you're saying. I had some major issues with Oscar napping and in the years that I've ridden I've managed to aviod the nappy ones! Realised that I had to get on with it and ride through it and it's working - he just needs to be kept busy really as he's such a switched on horse!

Ty will always be my baby and yes, you're right, probably a loan home is for the best.
 
loan yes, sale no, no affence ment, but i paid just over 1k for a 7yo mare with a proven bsja record... her only issue was shed got away with murder. shes now a gem. 1000 is way to high. id go loan with view to buy at a very low price.
 
I agree with HH that he's not worth £1000. If I was looking for that sort of horse then yes I would answer the ad but I would be looking to loan, or to pay a nominal fee to transfer ownership.

I would suggest putting him out on loan. Start off with a year and if it goes well then permenant loan. I put my Welshy out on loan last year because I didn't want to part with him, but equally we'd gone as far as we could together. He has breathing problems and can be a bit quirky to ride/handle so I wanted to be ultra careful of where he went. I have a HUGE loan contract, visit him every now and then, and speak to his loaners probably once a week or a fortnight. It's worked out well for me as I have ultimate control of his destiny, and didn't feel I wanted to sell a horse with breathing problems as I was worried about where he might end up.

I disagree with the poster who said you should keep him and sell your other horse. IMHO you don't do this for a living, you do it for fun. Most of us make a lot of sacrifices to keep our horses and you have to enjoy your horse. If he doesn't tick your boxes then I honestly think you're right to move him on. You will end up resenting him (been there!!) so loan might be the best option.

I took on a horse with known problems as well - she is slightly arthiritic behind, can be quirky to ride, has problems with her seasons and ovarian cysts, but she has so much experience and so much still to give that she's worth it. She costs me a fortune in supplements every month to keep her supple and her seasons regular, but I wouldn't change her. I am limited with what I can do with her but I knew that when I took her on (she's on loan), and she's fabulous.

So I don't think you're mad loaning/selling, I just think you need to take it slowly and find the right person. There are plenty of people out there who want a safe, sane and lovely horse to hack!
 
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