I'm being forced to move livery yards

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As many of you know, Fella has sweetitch. I bought him a brand new rug for it 7 weeks ago, and he ripped it into 3 pieces on the barbed wire fence twice.
I text the YM about it, 2 weeks later still no reply. I then saw her in person and asked her about it, and she was most unhelpful, first of all denying that it was the barbed wire and secondly saying if I didn't like it then I should move. I then said I am going to look into a number of options, for example buying electric fencing, but also considering other livery yards.
Today I found out that she took that as I was deffo moving and she has already filled my space and wants me gone asap.
So I now have to find another livery yard
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I have one place I am going to contact but he will be the only one there who is out at night, and the field isn't as nice. It's a shame as other than the barbed wire (and the YM!) I love the place Fella is at at the moment.
Oh well, I don't have a choice.
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Thats a bit rude of her without you giving her notice that you are moving she had no right filling your stable good luck with finding a new yard for him
 
So, don't move. Buy some electric fencing, and run it along the fence.

Tbh - I'm not sure what you expected the YO to do about your ripped rug in the first place........ And texting is such an awful way to communicate, as things can easily be taken out of context.

Sit down and chat with her. Clear up the misunderstanding. Buy some electric fencing. Problem solved.
 
I only text as if I ring she never answers as she is always busy, so I asked her to contact me about it when she was free, never got a response. I spoke to her in person about it the first time I saw her.
I didn't expect her to do much about the rug, I just wanted to let her know what had happened and to get out heads together to see if we could think of anything to help.
I don't have a choice not to move as she said she has filled my livery space and I have to go.
 
Yeah i also agree that the damage to your horses rug is not your YO responsibility as you were aware of the fencing issue maybe just explain to her
 
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I don't have a choice not to move as she said she has filled my livery space and I have to go.

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Is she the owner of the yard?

Has she given you notice to quit - how much notice?

Have you asked her to re-consider?
 
To a point, I agree with Amy. Even before I got Chloe, I knew that barbed wire would be a problem for her fly rugs. So far, she's actually not rubbed much on it, surprisingly, but I am using Piriton, vaseline, sudocrem and flygel (depending on which bit of the pony/whether it's rubbed!). With that combo, she hasn't even needed a fly rug since over a week ago, now. Could you try these until you get the fence sorted? I also agree that for something like this, you need to speak to her in person, if only to not burn bridges. I do sympathise with the rug tearing, though. I'm replacing the bits of barbed wire left at my place, bit by bit - I hate the stuff regardless of rugs!
 
Vicki_krystal I kind of agree with you, but I don't have much contact with her and there are almost no grass liveries around her.

AmyMay - No she isn't the owner of the yard, but the owner has nothing to do with the yard and wants it kept that way.
She hasn't given me notice to quit - she has just asked for me to give her my leaving date asap.
Yes I have asked her to re-consider, there were 5 horses in the field when I first arrived, but one left so I said it would just be the same as when I arrived but she has refused, saying my livery space has been filled.
 
Just dont move - you have every right to be there
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Maybe talk to the yard owner & manager as it could always be a misunderstanding
Did you usualy get on with your YM? If so im sure they would rather have you stay there than a new person
 
Well if she hasn't given you notice to quite - don't go. It's her problem not yours.

I would still contact the YO.
 
did you sign a contract when you came to the yard (I know some liverys have contracts etc) and if so, then check over it, as I am sure there will be points in there about notice required for being asked to leave, etc..........
 
I run a small yard and horses are horses, they ruin their rugs all the time, when they do this - it is not my fault (although we do not have barbed wire) if any of my liveries horses ruin their rugs and if they came to me to pass blame I would not be happy!

I wouldn't throw them off my yard though (unless they had pee'd me off before!)
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The yard I was going to go to did something similar - well, 3 days before I got my new horse and was meant to move in, I phoned to let her know what time we'd be arriving and she said she'd filled my space, sorry, she couldn't help. Errr...

I just wouldn't move. Say you had no intention to leave, she shouldn't have filled a space that wasn't vacant, you're a paying livery who'se done nothing wrong so it's her problem not yours
 
I wasn't blaming her for the broken rug or expecting her to do anything about it - I was just looking to see if she had any constructive help to offer me.

ISCHA - I live in Walderslade (which is Rochester/chatham way) and am willing to travel up to 20 mins ideally, poss a little more if the yard is very good but deffo under 30 mins.
 
I would have to agree with somof the comments above.

I wouldn't want to stay at a yard where a) I wasn't wanted and b) the fencing wasn't up to standard.

I wouldn't even enter into conversations with the y/o about having not given notice etc. you're wasting your breath.surely you'll be better off spending your energies finding somewhere new to keep your horse.
 
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Where does it say that the fencing isn't up to standard CBFan??

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It's barbed wire, generally not considered up to standard for horses. Would never turn mine out with the stuff.
 
i'd really p*ss all over her bonfire and stay as she hadnt asked to u to leave and neither of u gave notice to the other, but i would continue to look for somewhere else in your own time then leave!!! that will teach her because she'll have had to loose the person she's given ur space to and u as well!!!!
 
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Where does it say that the fencing isn't up to standard CBFan??

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It's barbed wire, generally not considered up to standard for horses. Would never turn mine out with the stuff.

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Never, ever had a problem with it. Provided you have enough grazing and the fencing is well looked after - then there should be no problems.

We have a combination of post and rail, natural hedges and rylock and barbed wire fencing. Never had a problem with damage with any of these fence types.
 
I have seen some horrendous injuries caused by bardbed wire - sadly though, it is still prevalent at most livery yards.

To be honest, if you tell your YM that you are "considering other options, including other yards" then she is going to assume that you are leaving. Saying you are now staying isnt going to change her mind - she will say that you have already given her notice.

At this stage I dont see how you can stay - she doesnt sound as though she wants you there. Why waste further time talking to her about it (and she is very busy so really this will just annoy her further) just tell her that you need time to find an alternative and as soon as you do you will let her know.

Also, if your rug gets ripped it really isnt the YM's responsibility, no matter how it got ripped. You kind of have to accept that if there is barbed wire, there will be rips. Equally if you turn your horse out in a herd, there will be fights and again your rugs can be ripped.
 
CBAnglo - I never said the rug being ripped was the YM's responsibility. I have stated several time in this post that I never blamed her for it, I just wanted some friendly advice.
I am going to look for somewhere else to go, mainly because in the time I have had him there the YM has never been nice to me and she and her bitchy clique do and say exactly what they want. I am just annoyed, thats all. If she had been unsure what "considering other options, including electric fencing and the possibility of moving him for his own good" meant, she could have asked me at any point for clarification because at no point did I say "I am leaving, this is my notice" or words in effect of that.
 
Maybe it would have been better to have said 'could I remove barbed wire & replace with... at my expense'.

I saw a horse run straight through a barbed wire fence once for no apparent reason & it cut her legs to shreds. Still makes me cringe when I see it used for horses.
 
I was volunteering to buy enough electric fencing to go round the entire field! I don't like barbed wire, but I can deal with it if it is well maintained, but it isn't and about 2 months ago I found he had cut his leg several times (thankfully not deeply) on a hanging strand of barbed wire.
 
In that case, I would have been looking for another yard ASAP. If the YM is nasty to you, then clearly she is looking at this as an opportunity to get rid of you. And also, your pony has already been injured - better safe than sorry.

Perhaps put a post on here for what you are looking for (grass livery?) and maybe someone will know somewhere with a space.

I do understand - livery yards are a nightmare, especially when the YM just doesnt care at all. But if you even mention the word "moving" to a YM/YO then they will assume you are leaving and will fill your space - they wont wait to hear "this is my notice". also, they will care even less about you then, because you will become an ex-livery.
 
tasteofchaos, having been on your yard many many times and seen the cuts to your poor boys legs, I would also possibly cut my losses and leave - sadly.
I know of a place in Gravesend that is more or less all grass livery. Is that too far for you? x
 
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