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Were any of the indigo Irish draughts that went to dealers ever found? Did they find good homes? I've read recently of an issue with one on Facebook and it being returned to hopton rehabilitation and rehoming as unsuitable for the loaner. Made me wonder what happened to the others.
 
I think the ex stallion Czar has ended up in a good home .
I know where 2 of the broodmares are , in fact I’ve been offered one that’s the Dam of one of my mares . But I haven’t the room at the moment .
There’s still a lot missing sadly .
It’s very very sad
 
There were two reg ID mares late entered at Brecon this month. 23yo and 15yo, both grey, sold off the warranty "to cover a debt". No information was given about them apart from the younger one having allegedly been driven. I did wonder if they might be Indigo horses.
 
Asha said:
I think the ex stallion Czar has ended up in a good home .
I know where 2 of the broodmares are , in fact I’ve been offered one that’s the Dam of one of my mares . But I haven’t the room at the moment .
There’s still a lot missing sadly .
It’s very very sad
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What happened? I know Janet George died…did it not go well for the horses? :/
 
teacups said:
What happened? I know Janet George died…did it not go well for the horses? :/
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No it did not. The person charged with sorting out her estate was non-horsey and basically sold them job lot to bin end dealers, even the old and broken ones. They ignored the advice of the staff and the land was handed over to a dubious charity, who could have stopped it but didn't. Poor Janet would be devastated.
 
teacups said:
What happened? I know Janet George died…did it not go well for the horses? :/
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Not in the slightest . Sold to dealers and then sold as ridden horses .
There’s one still missing that I was very fond of . I had her on breeding loan , but she didn’t take . She was a stunning mare . She was called Maggie,( indigo Tralee Rose I think from memory ) I hope she’s living her best life somewhere .
 
It’s all grimmer than a grimmer thing.

This lovely mare Brooklet (Indigo Reflection) is one of the missing.

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She was a favourite of Janet’s and was the resident schoolmistress. This is me on her in 2016 being put through my paces by Janet who then unexpectedly offered her to me to buy. Then another Indigo mare came back in for sale and I ended with her instead.

Brooklet would be 20 now if she is still alive. A lovely sensitive mare. She was sold aged 18 to a bin end dealer along with the others.

ETA I still have and cherish the Indigo mare that I bought, she is now 19yo. Extra hugs for her on behalf of all the Indigos who fared less well.

ETA 2. My wishes for my two are clear and have been agreed. Senior mare to be PTS and my Indigo mare either to be PTS or to be given to her former owner, with whom I am still in contact, depending on whether the mare is fit enough and not too ancient to travel across the channel to a new to her home.
 
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Tiddlypom said:
It’s all grimmer than a grimmer thing.

This lovely mare Brooklet (Indigo Reflection) is one of the missing.

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She was a favourite of Janet’s and was the resident schoolmistress. This is me on her in 2016 being put through my paces by Janet who then unexpectedly offered her to me to buy. Then another Indigo mare came back in for sale and I ended with her instead.

Brooklet would be 20 now if she is still alive. A lovely sensitive mare. She was sold aged 18 to a bin end dealer along with the others.
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Booklet was my favourite of Janet's horses. I can remember when she was born from the old Saddle Up days. I do hope she's ok, wherever she is. :(
 
Hopton weren't really considered a dodgy charity at the time of Janet's death....there seems to be quite a few not great stories relating to them now/recently though. And then there is the way they behaved when they inherited Janet's estate...

It certainly is a sad cautionary tale of what can go wrong if you don't get your will locked down tight wrt what happens to your animals after you've gone.
 
Ambers Echo said:
When I was doing my will I was told you could not legally deal with what happens to animals in a will. All I could do was leave a 'statement of wishes' alongside the will - but it's not legally binding. Haooy to be corrected but that is what I was informed.
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Yes, I've been told the same, sort of. They are property so you can still leave them to someone, you just can't then control what that person does with them.
I think the difficulty with Janet's situation though was that it wasn't the 'usual' case of 2 or 3 horses bequeathed to a close friend or relative with a statement of wishes that they are likely to follow. She had a fair amount of horses, a still semi-commercial breeding operation and it was all intertwined with her own personal residential property/home.

It's not the sort of assets package that is easily bequeathed to any other person or organisation.
 
Asha said:
Important to note , that the charity that took over wasn’t the one Janet wanted .
Janet would be furious .
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It is such a shame EMW were not involved as JG wished; they are an excellent small charity imo.
The org. that was involved doesn't have a good rep (there's some recent stuff on dodgy dealer pages about them).
 
DabDab said:
Yes, I've been told the same, sort of. They are property so you can still leave them to someone, you just can't then control what that person does with them.
I think the difficulty with Janet's situation though was that it wasn't the 'usual' case of 2 or 3 horses bequeathed to a close friend or relative with a statement of wishes that they are likely to follow. She had a fair amount of horses, a still semi-commercial breeding operation and it was all intertwined with her own personal residential property/home.

It's not the sort of assets package that is easily bequeathed to any other person or organisation.
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Yes and I know of woman who wanted her veteran and compromised horse PTS. She had terminal cancer and wanted to enjoy her horse, who lived at home, until she died. Then hoped her wishes would be carried out. But the the person who then owned the horse decided not to honour that at first. She did in the end after an outcry from other friends.
 
Ambers Echo said:
And another person gifted her horse to someone in her will- having agreed that in advance - on the understanding it would be a home for life. She sold on immediately. Ethics dissolve when money is involved. Sadly.
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I often wonder as well whether people agree to a friend/relative leaving them their horse in their will out of something like politeness (that's not the right word but hopefully you get what I mean), and then in reality can't or don't really want to have the horse when the circumstance actually arises.
 
It’s quite an ask to agree with someone to take on a horse when they don’t know what situation they will be in when the time comes.

Such a minefield.

I’ve got an expression of wishes. My non-horsey sister to utilise one of 3 people to advise and manage on selling, loaning, pts the horses and those people are know pro horse people who would be paid an hourly rate from the estate to do this.

Best I can do, probably not fool proof.
 
Well in the latter case, it was to a woman with her own horses who the ill woman had been paying to exercise her horse twice a week all throughout her illness. She was not expcted to die when she did, but had her affairs in order anyway. And she also left her money on the understanding that this would fund the horse's care. It was all very upfront. She even set up a fund for a DD to the yard owner for the horse to remain on full livery. Which became an issue when the horse went because there was no-one who could stop the DD! YO just accumulated it in a separate account waiting to be told what to do with it.
 
Ambers Echo said:
Well in the latter case, it was to a woman with her own horses who the ill woman had been paying to exercise her horse twice a week all throughout her illness. She was not expcted to die when she did, but had her affairs in order anyway. And she also left her money on the understanding that this would fund the horse's care. It was all very upfront. She even set up a fund for a DD to the yard owner for the horse to remain on full livery. Which became an issue when the horse went because there was no-one who could stop the DD! YO just accumulated it in a separate account waiting to be told what to do with it.
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OMG what a dreadful situation for the yard owner. Was there no relatives?
 
ihatework said:
It’s quite an ask to agree with someone to take on a horse when they don’t know what situation they will be in when the time comes.

Such a minefield.

I’ve got an expression of wishes. My non-horsey sister to utilise one of 3 people to advise and manage on selling, loaning, pts the horses and those people are know pro horse people who would be paid an hourly rate from the estate to do this.

Best I can do, probably not fool proof.
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Mine are bequeathed to a trusted friend. Rigs would be kept or PTS and H kept or sold honourably, as in to a similar home to where he is now.

I also left enough money to have them on livery there!
 
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