inflammation of coffin and laminae

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My horse is at vets at moment had surgery and treatment for tear in hind suspensory but I would like more advice on his front leg lameness.
Hes had x rays and hoof appears to be ok.
I bought him in april and he was barefoot his hooves were very very short and he was very uncomfortable in front.He improved with shoes and farrier suggested leaving as long as possible between shoeing and there has been some good growth.Vet is happy with farrier but suggested gel pads which have really helped hes much more comfortable.Hes booked in for shockwave in coffin and will possibly be medicated.
Barefoot was causing him more problems as he has thin soles and laminae is bruised and inflammed.
Does anyone have any advice or long term prognosis not sure if this problem will reacurr or treatment is likely to solve inflammation long term.
Ive found loads of sites and info on suspensory but want to look into his other injury.
thanks in advance :D
 
I would be treating the horse as a laminitic, inflammation and bruising to the laminae are symptoms of laminitis and he needs to be supported in order to improve the function of his feet. The farrier is addressing the shoeing you need to address the diet, low sugar and starch, soaked hay, a good supplement, he may not need to actually lose weight unlike most laminitics but careful feeding can enable him to grow a healthy foot.

Search barefoot diets on here for loads of info, I feed fast fibre to mine and am very happy with how they do on it. Just to add they do not have to be unshod to need a good diet that supports the feet and improves the quality, by barefoot diet I just used that as it is where the best info is to be found
 
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I'd echo bepositive. Regardless of the causative agent, inflamed laminae = laminitis. That's what "itis" means, inflammation of. So you need to be treating your horse as a laminitic. Deep soft bedding up to the stable door, no leaving the stable until the condition has settled, appropriate diet etc etc. It may take a long time for the laminae to recover and reform the strong links to the hoof that then support the entire weight of the horse. I don't know if it will ever recover fully. If your vets have advised that barefoot coupled with a weak or poor conformational foot is at the root of the problem then I'd say don't be swayed by evangelical barefoot proponents! Stick to your guns. Nothing against barefoot per se.
 
Ditto the diet; thin soles are also cause by diet (not by being barefoot :)). I'm slightly worried about the advice to leave the horse a long time between shoeings - I don't see what good this can achieve. A long hoof wall is not a good thing, it will put more strain on the laminae which, as you've mentioned, are already under stress.

Perhaps he was taken barefoot to try and correct the thin soles and laminitic symptoms? It's vital to address diet if you try this, however.
 
The good news is hes already on high fibre diet ie fast fibre and hi fi lite.When he was on 24 hr t/o in summer it was long grass not been touched for 6 mths so shouldnt have been high in sugars.
Farriers opinion on leaving longer between shoeing was too avoid trimming but will be looked at every 6 weeks .
Hes on rubber matting and wood pellets so good deep bedding in place.
Farrier thinks his feet have never been looked at and hed been neglected so that hoof broke rather than trimmed he was only 4 so had never seen pair of shoes. It adds up as his teeth had never been done his mouth was horrendous .We think hed just been chucked in field and left the breeders have good horses but bad reputation .
Thanks for comments I take on board everything that you have all said but most has already been addressed .My vet is very good and I will discuss laminitic suggestions .
Hes nice weight 500kg for 16h 5yr old idx warmblood.
the only thing I might change is his hay .Keep suggestions coming I want to do everything I can hes such lovely horse :D
 
Hi Cellie

Sorry to hear that your new boy is having problems. I would repeat as above re hay and diet. Although I think your farrier is right to go a longer time between shoeings if there is no hoof growth - there will be nothing to nail the shoes to.

Have you tried something to increase hoof growth? I use black oil sunflower seeds for my TBS but I went through and tried everything (biotin, Naf stuff etc) but nothing really made a difference. It is all well and good saying that horses should get good nutrition to have healthy feet but if they are on limited diets/turnout or poor grazing then you need to think about supplementing. I also feed a general supplement (this seems to vary, but am on the feedmark one at the moment).

Hope your boy is ok. My ex-racer had the PSD op about 3 months ago; just had scan and vet said all ok with hind suspensories but he is still 1/10ths lame in his offside hind. Another 3 months of box rest to look forward to!
 
If he was out 24/7 this can be enough, with sensitive horses, to cause problems. I just wanted to mention that he will still be just as sensitive to sugars with shoes on, but you may not notice such obvious symptoms. It's worth bearing in mind, however.
 
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Hi Cellie

Sorry to hear that your new boy is having problems. I would repeat as above re hay and diet. Although I think your farrier is right to go a longer time between shoeings if there is no hoof growth - there will be nothing to nail the shoes to.

Have you tried something to increase hoof growth? I use black oil sunflower seeds for my TBS but I went through and tried everything (biotin, Naf stuff etc) but nothing really made a difference. It is all well and good saying that horses should get good nutrition to have healthy feet but if they are on limited diets/turnout or poor grazing then you need to think about supplementing. I also feed a general supplement (this seems to vary, but am on the feedmark one at the moment).

Hope your boy is ok. My ex-racer had the PSD op about 3 months ago; just had scan and vet said all ok with hind suspensories but he is still 1/10ths lame in his offside hind. Another 3 months of box rest to look forward to!
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Hes been on balancer the fast fibre has biotin I think but can easily pick some up,hooves have grown and quality of horn is good .

Hes also on supplement to help with ligament /tendon repair .
Ever feel youve been here before ;);)sorry to hear about your boy:o Now off to pick him up will find out more very soon :D
 
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