Oberon
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Information about laminitis and research
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WelshRuby
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Thank you Oberon, very interesting. Won't it be great when lammie is no more?
muff747
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Hi Oberon, thanks for this, it's interesting to hear the info and see faces to names I'v heard of.
I have to comment tho on the big bay and the grey horses who look like they have lami in their back feet - I don't believe they have lami, I would say they have ESPA - it affects the laminae, in fact all connective tissue.
Look at their back fetlocks and how far they drop and their hock is almost straight. watch this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxm5vDro0QU
I know I am doubting some of the worlds most experienced scientists/vets but unless they are going to euthenise those two horses and then disect their feet, I would like to bet it's not lami in those two. Many vets around the world do not recognise it or know what to look for. It flares up when the body is overloaded with sugar too so it is very easily mistaken for lami.
The signs and x-rays are very similar. Look at this web site http://www.dsldequine.info/
This is what I think my gelding has but he's not that far gone.
I have to comment tho on the big bay and the grey horses who look like they have lami in their back feet - I don't believe they have lami, I would say they have ESPA - it affects the laminae, in fact all connective tissue.
Look at their back fetlocks and how far they drop and their hock is almost straight. watch this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxm5vDro0QU
I know I am doubting some of the worlds most experienced scientists/vets but unless they are going to euthenise those two horses and then disect their feet, I would like to bet it's not lami in those two. Many vets around the world do not recognise it or know what to look for. It flares up when the body is overloaded with sugar too so it is very easily mistaken for lami.
The signs and x-rays are very similar. Look at this web site http://www.dsldequine.info/
This is what I think my gelding has but he's not that far gone.
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muff747
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Well maybe not the grey so much but the bay looks very much like DSLD.
muff747
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I sent the You Tube vid to the gurus on the Yahoo DSLD/ESPA group and they do agree that the bay looks like DSLD rather than laminintis.
Which really goes to show - if it is - it's even possible for one of the worlds leading researching vets to mistake a case of D/E for lami as the presenting signs are so similar.
One of the causes of a flare up of D/E is also a cause of lami and the treatment for both would help the recovery of either affliction.
So on the D/E group, we agreed that it is entirely possible for mystery causes of lameness which initially looks like lami, could in fact be D/E.
It also confirms my suspicion that my gelding may not have been suffering from LGL these past three years, but in fact it is probable it is D/E.
Which really goes to show - if it is - it's even possible for one of the worlds leading researching vets to mistake a case of D/E for lami as the presenting signs are so similar.
One of the causes of a flare up of D/E is also a cause of lami and the treatment for both would help the recovery of either affliction.
So on the D/E group, we agreed that it is entirely possible for mystery causes of lameness which initially looks like lami, could in fact be D/E.
It also confirms my suspicion that my gelding may not have been suffering from LGL these past three years, but in fact it is probable it is D/E.