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I have been reading the threads on OFOH and would love to let you know real facts.

1. The Horses lived like royalty under the supervision of possibly the best head girl worldwide, the grooms all worked very hard but must have come away with more knowledge in the short time they had than many will learn in years, every professional needed was there on site not at the end of a phone. The sort of care we would all love to provide for our own horses.


2. The horses did not get over ridden and over jumped. The courses got tested for lighting, sound and camera's with stand in horses and riders, I can think of many riding schools which are run very professionally whose horses work much harder. The horses did work hard but not to the extreme of being over worked and over jumped. Tim or Fred would never have allowed this to happen they are true professionals dedicated to making the horses there priority with the celebs a very very close second.


3. The fences eventually became = advanced joker 1.25mtrs, intermediate 1.10mtrs novice 1.mtr. comments about measureing with a stick pushed into the surface are to be treated with the contempt they deserve.

4. As in the real world some horse / rider partnerships developed well others fell apart, some riders became to be able to read and feel their horses needs and actions and many horses became to love and respect their jockeys helping them out where they had been able to but again in 6 weeks they all worked wonders. To suggest the voting / results was fixed is also utter rubbish, voting was all about choice, the general public voted for their favorite celeb on the night while horsey viewers voted on the partnership, we are fortunate to see the bigger picture which included the horse not just the rider.

My personal view is that the winner and runner up deserved to win but all contestants showed dedication and bravery to the cause. how many of us could have kept going and achieved that standard in just 6 weeks?

The presenters chosen for both programmes made the shows appealing to a wide spectrum of viewers, Angus Deacon gave us humour, Kirsty Gallagher Glamour, June Sarpong & Dave Berry a young fun alternative, non horsey viewers never felt like they had been left out expected to know horsey facts, Mike Tucker also explained in detail the jumps and Tim Stockdale and Claire Balding gave viewers the run down on what went right or wrong and why.
The judges also had a huge input to the success of the show
As for the reaction to the judges this was encouraged and was for fun, this is entertainment us horsey folk need to lighten up and not be so serious it's was show business after all.
As for the venue if they had not have said it was Unex Towerlands would you have guessed ? even though Towerlands has always been the best indoor UK centre it has had a recently undergone a substantial facelift under the Gredly family who have added many features to the centre which can only benefit anyone who loves competition be it show jumping, showing, dressage or western infact all equestrian disciplins but the arena dressing, how glam was that.

I must make it clear I love show jumping in it's present format however whilst the programme did not particually follow BSJA rules it has made the general public want more showjumping and that has to be good and can only be for the development of the sport. Life is all about change and I believe the format of just a few riders rather than 25+ as in BSJA & FEI show jumping (HOYS, Hickstead & Olympia) makes good general viewing which appeals to the masses, lets face it television is about appealing to the masses and fingers crossed someone comes up with a similar formula to this show to encourage the programme makers/ investors to put show jumping back on main stream TV , it would be fantastic to promote equestrianism in all directions. We will then all benefit from this as it should bring back the sponsors to enable the sport to move on.
Thank You . BBC 1, BBC 3 Sports Relief & Endemol UK.
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Here, here.

Well said...it got better as the days went on - but then doesnt every such programme? Big Brother? Im a Celeb? The Games?

I dont know why so many people have panned this...perhaps they had made thier minds up after show 1 and didnt bother to get into it? Who knows. I loved it.
 

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I thought it was all, on the whole, tremendous & as one who has ridden & jumped for many years, I'd be more than happy at being competent, and sticking at, novice at 1m.

At the end of the day, the money raised for Sport Relief is what really counts. OFOH was a fantastic way to do it - so much better than singing, dancing, skating not least because it showed those lovely horses on TV night after night.
 

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Thank you so much it is refreshing to get some "Real knowledge", there are just too many people on here who are full of their own importance, & spout of the biggest load of rubbish for any forum I have read. So once again thanks, I for one thought there had been enougn c#rp written about this programme. I think the horses were real stars, but hats off to the trainers one of which is local to us, as is Tom Stockdale & the celbs they were fantastic & would put 50% of the users on here to shame with their riding. Most on here cant jump as well & have been riding for a bl$$dy lot longer!!!
 

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how do you know that the celebs would put 50% of hh users to shame and how do you know most on here cant jump as well?? pretty sure you dont know alot about most people on here not their background/knowlege/skill.
 

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My aim for this thread was to give a bit of insight into backstage as it was, anyone associated with horses should know it's not as easy as professionals make it look, from the likes of Robert Smith to your riding instructor who can make a flying change look second nature when many struggle to do a simple change, we all have a problem doing something (including all professionals just ask them) it would be so wonderful if everyone just sat back and thinks how hard it was to master rising trot or your first canter. it's all too easy for us to find fault I am the worlds worst at it but I am trying hard to be possitive after such a wonderful leg up excuse the pun in our world of horses, instead why not try in the best way possible to convert a nation of non horsey viewers into wanting more, do we need to be seen as a bunch of politicians all scoring points.
 

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Itotally agree, my neighbours came to ask if I could give them lessons, they might change their tune after the first one, but you never know.......
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. OFOH has raised the profile of show jumping.
 

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I am so glad that you have posted this. I have siad very similar on several different posts on H & H forum. I was lucky enough to be there for the last 4 days and was amazed at the work that had gone into working with the horses to get them used to the large screen, clapping and cheering etc. It is a moment to savour that horses were on tv every evening! Well done you.
 

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Thank you Topical, your post is to be applauded.

Thanks to OFOH two friends have started lunge lessons this weekend and have today mastered rising trot. They aim to be jumping by the end of the summer and, being blokes, are already becoming very competitive!!
 

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very well put.

i am really disapointed with the reaction to this programme. We should be happy it has given the sport a showcase like never before.

but there are no more judgemental people with differing opinions that horsey folks. lol lol lol
 

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I went out with a friend tonight who's instructor taught Diarmuid, and who he thanked on Friday, and she said that the number of people who've called since to book their first lesson is amazing! It looks like a lot of people will now be starting as a result of OFOH!
 

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Ha, ha, horses as we all know are not predictable, was the jump off a hologram and the audience put into a trance? but please for your peace of mind call the publishers, if you have any knowledge into journalism you will know that certain pages are held awaiting news and are put into print as the news breaks 99.99% of the publication will be already set awating the last story and sport relief is good news, do you think if England had won the World Cup on a Saturday night it would not have been in the newspaper mags the following day. I am a realist and can see there will always be someone trying to mess up what can be the best thing that has happened to equestrianism, one has to ponder at your motive and look towards the majority of people who believe in this objective.
 

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still think they could have better presenters and jodie was pretty poor.but as it was their first show things can hopefully get better and i hope we see a programme like this next year.
liked robert smith and the other judge and thought tim did a fantastic job.
still would love to see more behind the scenes and training methods
 

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Thank you Topical, what a well balanced and obviously knowledgeable report.
I don't think for one minute the results were fixed, and am full of admiration for all of the people who took part.
How many of us would have coped with the pressure, remember not just when they were riding, but in their off duty time as well.
I do hope they repeat this next year, the only real criticisms I have are that Angus just wasn't right for the job, his total lack of knowledge was too apparent, and the final should be run in a more fluid way, without the big gaps, it caused a loss of excitement for me.
There could be a follow up of course with those riders tackling a small ODE...Now that would be worth watching!
 

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Thanks Topical - really interesting.

I thought the programme was wonderful. I really, really admired those people to be honest.

It would be great for the BBC to show a 'behind the scenes, and a training' programme in the near future.

And perhaps next year - Dressage???

Great stuff!!
 

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sorry Topical I know newspapers hold reports and get them out last minute
but the TV mag was on sale wednesday printed before that and if not fix how did they know the result from the saturday
I found the program great fun and it raised a lot of money
did the horse world a lot of good
but it was fixed and precorded
 

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I loved it. Really enjoyed watching it all the way thru and only have admiration for the celebrities doing as well as they did.
Agree AD was not the best but hope it gets repeated next year
 

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What a terrible shame you have such a distrust of life, I hope that someone in the audience of some 650+ who saw the final on Saturday evening makes themselves known to you, the atmosphere was electric with a standing ovation for Jenni, I for one will hold that as a life long memory of how good the sport can be.
 

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Well I voted for Jenni on the final night so I know she had at least 1 vote!!
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I thought she was awful at the beginning, but she took everything said on board, rode better and better each night, really kept her cool and really deserved to win.
 

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I went up to the filming of it on Friday - and it was brilliant. Well done to everyone, especially the production team - they were brilliant, really helpful and friendly.

Would like to have seen Nicki win, as she was probably the most natural - but that's the thing with showjumping, it's not just about the talent of the rider, it's about the horse as well - you can get 4 faults after riding a beautifully stylish round, and someone else can come and ride like a sack of spuds and go clear.

Anyway, all positive for me - well done everyone.
 

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Thank you - I could not believe the reaction of some people on here - I for one thought it was great but the horseworld is full of people who think they know it all
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(Oh and my friend was at the final on Saturday - definately not put in a trance - I'd like to see them try
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), another friend was Coxy's groom and wanted her to win right through to the end - cannot believe someone would be so distrusting as to think it was fixed
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I also hope someone that was there on saturday
can explain how the winner was known by the TV mag a week before
 

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Thanks for your post topical, ive heard loads of rumours about OFOH and im glad that someone has put things straight.
I really enjoyed the show and by the sound of it im the only jenni fan
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. Its a shame that such a great show for such a good cause has to be tainted by rumours. Im also glad that all those anoying none equstrain people that say'its so easy to ride a horse you just jump on and kick' now see how difficult it actually is to ride.
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Kais...please name the TV mag and details of the publishers. I amongst others are sick of your silly sounding accusations so would be delighted to get in touch with the printers to find out exactly when they got details of this scam you seem to think has occured.

Either stump up the info or get off the soap box.
 

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I thought it was a fantastic show, start to end, and raised a hell of a lot of money for charity, you cant really knock it, can you?
 

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I also hope someone that was there on saturday
can explain how the winner was known by the TV mag a week before

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Perhaps the magazine employs Mystic Meg? Or they are just good guessers?

Does it really matter though? It was a fun programme, has done a great job raising money for those who need help, and has put horse sports in the public eye. I thought it was great entertainment.
 
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