Instant calmers.....

[{97702}]

could anyone advise what is out there other than NAF Magic? I tried NAF Magic with my loan pony and it was horrid stuff as it smelt awful and the pony spat it out everywhere I have been out of touch with competing for a couple of years now so have lost touch with what else is out there

 

[mudmonkey17]

Watching this with interest as just purchased the so kalm instant calmer to try.

 

[Caramac71]

We use Equine Science Calmer Cookies for our mare. We've tried a few different calmers and these are the only thing that seems to work for her. She loves them too!

 

[{97702}]

Watching this with interest as just purchased the so kalm instant calmer to try.

I think that was what I used to use with my last TB - couldn't think of the name though, thank you!

 

[{97702}]

We use Equine Science Calmer Cookies for our mare. We've tried a few different calmers and these are the only thing that seems to work for her. She loves them too!

Cookies? That sounds easy Will Google, thanks!

 

[Caramac71]

There's also Confidence EQ which is a gel you rub in the nostrils. Ive not used it but have friends who recommend it.

 

[bluebellfreddy]

Equine America so kalm plus paste is fab, only calmer that worked with my horse. I started with the super so kalm plus paste but then did not need the super one after a few uses. It does smell grim but put a little bit at a time in, Stops them spitting it back out as much. I was also able to cut down the dose as well.

 

[goodtimes]

Kalmex powder takes the edge off mine.

 

[millmo]

We're using Lincoln Platinum Pro 5 Mag Calmer. It can be used as an instant calmer or long term. We mix it with a little bit of chaff and its gone in seconds so can't taste that bad.

 

[Cortez]

Gosh, are there so many people using calmers then?

 

[old hand]

pro kalm is brilliant. you only need to give on the day of the show, clipping etc so works out very cheap or you can give a low level long term. It does not affect performance but deals with excitable, nervous or spooky behaviour. Best I have ever used.

 

[Lyle]

Gosh, are there so many people using calmers then?

I was thinking the same thing! What situations are these calmers being used for? Competition? Not sure what the rules are in the UK, but in Aus, ANY product, whether swabbable or not, natural or not, that is administered to the horse to alter performance is illegal. That means tryptophan/magnesium calmers, alongside drugs. It's interesting, because I was under the impression that they won't work unless the horse is deficient in Magnesium in their diet, but there seems to be a lot of people who swear by them making a difference. Would love to know more, a few brands like NAF have made it to Aus (although aren't that common) but I'd be interested to have a few tubes on hand for emergencies, clipping etc.

 

[{97702}]

Gosh are there really so many people who want to make sanctimonious judgemental comments on a thread? Oh of course there are, this is HHO after all

I would love someone to point out exactly where I said I was proposing (or actually using) a calmer for a competition?

 

[{97702}]

Thanks for the helpful answers guys, they are really useful

 

[WelshD]

A few options

Supreme Products DeFuse (syringe or liquid)
Oxyshot (syringe, not mag based)
Nupafeed (syringe)
Global herbs Supacalm (sachet)
Instamag (spray on)
Relax Me Now (syringe)

 

[Lyle]

Gosh are there really so many people who want to make sanctimonious judgemental comments on a thread? Oh of course there are, this is HHO after all

I would love someone to point out exactly where I said I was proposing (or actually using) a calmer for a competition?

Not sure if this is aimed at me, but I wasn't being judgemental. I was ASKING what the calmers were used for, and it wasn't aimed at you in particular, but all the others who have contributed to the thread.
I'm genuinely curious, as in my country we have one type of calmer, and I can guarantee it doesn't work. So sorry, I'll refrain from posting on HHO in the future, for fear of being judgmental :/

 

[Caramac71]

Not sure if this is aimed at me, but I wasn't being judgemental. I was ASKING what the calmers were used for, and it wasn't aimed at you in particular, but all the others who have contributed to the thread.
I'm genuinely curious, as in my country we have one type of calmer, and I can guarantee it doesn't work. So sorry, I'll refrain from posting on HHO in the future, for fear of being judgmental :/

We use a calmer for our mare in situations where we know she will get stressy: loading/travelling, clipping, riding on the roads as she isn't great with traffic.

We use the calmer cookies which are supposed to work by sending feel-good signals to the brain, so for repetitive situations like clipping or loading, after a while the horse associates it with a positive experience and you don't need to use anymore. We've certainly found that is the case with travelling.

 

[Lyle]

We use a calmer for our mare in situations where we know she will get stressy: loading/travelling, clipping, riding on the roads as she isn't great with traffic.

We use the calmer cookies which are supposed to work by sending feel-good signals to the brain, so for repetitive situations like clipping or loading, after a while the horse associates it with a positive experience and you don't need to use anymore. We've certainly found that is the case with travelling.

Fantastic! Thank you I'll certainly be looking into the cookies or similar overseas products, they sound excellent for the situations you've described

 

[{97702}]

Not sure if this is aimed at me, but I wasn't being judgemental. I was ASKING what the calmers were used for, and it wasn't aimed at you in particular, but all the others who have contributed to the thread.
I'm genuinely curious, as in my country we have one type of calmer, and I can guarantee it doesn't work. So sorry, I'll refrain from posting on HHO in the future, for fear of being judgmental :/

Apologies I had thought the use of calmers was quite self-evident, my mistake - I am looking to use a calmer for my TB on occasions where he might find things stressful and I would like him to be calmer (for his sake not mine)

For example when travelling, a visit from the equine dentist next week, a lesson at a new venue etc etc etc......pretty much any new situation with a TB really....

 

[Britestar]

Has anyone use the Forest Farmacy stuff?

Horse had an accident in the trailer 2 weeks ago, and he wasn't the best traveller in the first place. Looking for something to help waylay his anxiety when I come to try and load/travel again.

 

[Prince33Sp4rkle]

Confidence EQ which is a gel you rub in nostrils.

REALLY helped Fig and will try it on Goof when he starts competing. I see nothing wrong in helping them chill....in many cases you need it less and less as the positive experience each time builds confidence to the point of not needing it any longer.

 

[mudmonkey17]

Confidence EQ which is a gel you rub in nostrils.

REALLY helped Fig and will try it on Goof when he starts competing. I see nothing wrong in helping them chill....in many cases you need it less and less as the positive experience each time builds confidence to the point of not needing it any longer.

I am hoping this will be the case with horse I ride and that I only need a calmer first couple of outings to help him relax then stop it x

 

[Nicnac]

Gosh, are there so many people using calmers then?

You'd be surprised Cortez - most of them are as useful as a chocolate teapot and cost the earth

 

[{97702}]

Confidence EQ which is a gel you rub in nostrils.

REALLY helped Fig and will try it on Goof when he starts competing. I see nothing wrong in helping them chill....in many cases you need it less and less as the positive experience each time builds confidence to the point of not needing it any longer.

That is my take on it too PS - if I can make his first trip to a new venue a good one then we can carry on and build on that as a positive

 

[Fun Times]

I don't use calmers on my horse as I have trained him properly so he is perfect, adaptable and stress free in absolutely every situation. I am of course being facetious. Its just that whenever a thread like this pops up someone always has to respond with this kind of useless trumpet blowing crap so I thought I would get it in their first and walk about feeling smug for a bit.

 

[{97702}]

I don't use calmers on my horse as I have trained him properly so he is perfect, adaptable and stress free in absolutely every situation. I am of course being facetious. Its just that whenever a thread like this pops up someone always has to respond with this kind of useless trumpet blowing crap so I thought I would get it in their first and walk about feeling smug for a bit.

PMSL love it Enjoy your smug feeling

 

[Fun Times]

PMSL love it Enjoy your smug feeling

Ha ha. On a more serious note, my friends event horse can be a bit spooky and gets distracted easily at events and they have had a lot of success with the nupafeed stuff. She is certainly more focused and workable with at events from what they have told me.