Interesting FB story re: attack on cavalier

I've shared it. Whether its the full facts or not, I'm not too concerned, my newsfeed was full of people sparking the witch hunt with no concern to whether the original story was facts!

Of course the Cavalier will have bit back! Why is it automatically the staffie that is the bad guy?

And no, I'm not a crazed Staffie loyalist, I have two Cavs!
 
Sounds quite plausible, my own dogs (terriers) have slipped their leads on the odd occasion.

I didn't like the original post, it seemed to be trial by facebook with just the cav's owner's version, enhanced by the photo's she stopped to take.
 
I didnt take to the cavaliers owner :( One of my main issues has always been why anyone in their right mind would stop to take pictures of their dog being attacked regardless of who else had stopped to help etc :(
 
Having had Dobes for many years all of which wore choke chains I have never ever had one slip off even with dogs running backwards.

Why give false details, he said he offered to pay but gave false details, it sounds very strange to me.

Enzo was by this admittance was not good with other male dogs and being a powerful dog was quite able to do serious damage, Ive had a da Dobe male and I know he would have been quite able to kill another dog especialy one as small as a Cavalier. He never did because I took extra care and trained it out of him thanks to an excellant trainer.

Ive seen the racist comments and I think they are disgusting and have no place in our society.
 
Interesting to hear the other side so to speak. I also didn't share as thought it was unfair.
I hope enzo went quickly and peacefully and now can enjoy playing in the sky.
A sad situation and does indeed sound very plausible.
 
Dobiegirl said:
Having had Dobes for many years all of which wore choke chains I have never ever had one slip off even with dogs running backwards.
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Whilst not a choke chain, my Boxer slipped his slip-lead the other day when he pulled backwards! No idea how but it happened! Luckily we were in the field so he wasn't going far anyway, the little tinker!
 
Im sorry I don't believe a word of it!......the choke chain slip or the insurance rubbish (her saying she would rather go through insurance) (utter crap) imo...I think the dog attacked and has before and people are now trying to defend the actions of the idiot owner of the SBT (if indeed the cavi ran to the staff) then she too is a twit, but the sbt is uncontrollable in incapable hands (simples).
I had a client visit tonight and her dog was attacked by a GSD, it was a toy breed and she panicked, she is fearful of aggressive dogs and did not have a clue what to do so she admited she stood by) screaming and panicking and the GSD owner had the get the dog off (the dog was scared all over from the attack and narrowly escaped losing an ear. The Gsd has now been PTS (owners choice). the GSD was off lead and the toy breed (on lead) this is just to prove some owners are scared stiff to react (not everyone is dog savvy and capable or brave enough to tackle a fighting dog.Just my opinion:p
 
I'm sorry but that doesn't show another perspective to me at all.

The Cav barked at the Staff from a distance, was chased and then when attacked, he fought back (survival instinct much?!). Don't really see what the Cav or his owner did wrong in that situation?

The fight went on for 7-8 minutes- that is an awfully long time considering both owners were there and it took that long to get the Staff off.

I don't blame either dog for this but it sounds like the staff had previous aggressive issues which hadn't been dealt with and no way should that dog have been allowed to slip his lead and attack another dog on a walk, even if the other dog barked at him (my pointer can slip a lead very easily so wears a harness instead).
 
This, the guy didn't expect it to go viral and is now trying damage limitation, yes accidents happen and I certainly wouldn't be stood taking photos whilst another dog was pulling mine to pieces but if my dog reacted like that to other dogs barking then not only would I make sure it didn't slip its lead but it should have had a muzzle on no question. Poor dog ended up with an owner who was incapable at the very best, not its fault it has been pts but probably for the best in this situation :(
 
I'm not buying any of it.

Why was the Cav's owner standing round taking pictures? Yes I understand that some people get scared stiff and can't move but whipping your mobile/camera out and getting a few pictures? NO. I just can't fathom what was going through her head. I've been in a situation where my dog was being chased. My number one concern was getting my dog away and keeping him safe. I would not have stood by taking pictures. Just disgusting.

If he knew that his dog was aggressive he should have dealt with it properly. I know a lot of people on here have dog-aggressive dogs and they take extra precautions to make sure their dogs are not involved in these situations.

I know not everyone believes in insurance but when you have a dog that may be a liability (not meaning to offend, just in reference to the fact that this dog is more likely to cause an incident that would require insurance) you make sure you are insured. I'm not going to bash Bull breeds. I think they're great. In the right hands they are excellent pets and companions but if something were to go wrong they are strong, heavy dogs that can cause serious damage. Unless you have tens of thousands of pounds in the back spare to pay for other people's vet treatments then you need insurance. Not just for you, for everyone else. He knew this dog was dog aggressive and it was irresponsible of him to not have insurance and to not take every precaution to prevent this.

None of this is making sense to me.

Once again, I'm not bashing bull breeds. I'm just saying that if they were to attack then it's going to be bad.
 
millitiger said:
I'm sorry but that doesn't show another perspective to me at all.

The Cav barked at the Staff from a distance, was chased and then when attacked, he fought back (survival instinct much?!). Don't really see what the Cav or his owner did wrong in that situation?

The fight went on for 7-8 minutes- that is an awfully long time considering both owners were there and it took that long to get the Staff off.

I don't blame either dog for this but it sounds like the staff had previous aggressive issues which hadn't been dealt with and no way should that dog have been allowed to slip his lead and attack another dog on a walk, even if the other dog barked at him (my pointer can slip a lead very easily so wears a harness instead).
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It shows another perspective because it is not the view of the owner of the cavalier.

Nowhere did I say that the cavalier did anything wrong (other than being a yappy little *** as they are wont to be...)

I still maintain that the choice of the cavalier's owner to stand and take photos is extremely odd indeed, regardless of who else was there helping split the dogs up, restrain the staffy's owner so she could take his picture, etc.

I dont doubt the staffy did have behavioural issues, that is why he had been rehomed to the young man who owned him at the time of the incident. Poor dog :(
 
CAYLA said:
Im sorry I don't believe a word of it!......the choke chain slip or the insurance rubbish (her saying she would rather go through insurance) (utter crap) imo...I think the dog attacked and has before and people are now trying to defend the actions of the idiot owner of the SBT (if indeed the cavi ran to the staff) then she too is a twit, but the sbt is uncontrollable in incapable hands (simples).
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I think the owner of the staffie was a young man who didn't have enough knowledge of dogs to own that particular one - he may be an idiot, but lets face it, there are plenty of idiots out there who own dogs :rolleyes: Why would he lie about the dog slipping its collar/the insurance issue?

Knowing cavaliers as I do, and owning a dog which is small dog aggressive, I can quite easily see a scenario where the cavalier has been yapping like a hysterical little yappy thing, the staffie has slipped it's collar, and disaster ensued :(
 
So after the attack the two owners stood viewing the photos before discussing insurance claims?? I think I may have picked my badly beaten up dog and ran straight to the vets!!!
 
a fight or attack between a staffie and cavalier that lasted 7-8mins would surely have resulted in a dead cavalier?

sounds like a load of c##p from both parties to me

i dont know who is to blame and i dont think i ever will, i just wish people would take responsibility for their dogs and the things they do
 
A question for the people who cant understand why the woman took photos if you had done everything you could(and this woman seems pretty helpless) and 2 men are trying to get this dog off yours and you thought my dog is going to die and this b*****d is going to get away with it what would you do? I happen to think this woman showed remarkable forethought to take those photos and she could well have saved other dogs suffering the same fate. As I said earlier if she hadnt taken the photos this man would not have been identified and would have been free for the same thing to have happened again, how is that acceptable?.

I have friends who I know would go to pieces if this happened to them my daughter included, after the initial shock of the attack I doubt a lot of people would have any idea to split them up. When your dog is screaming in agony how do any of us know we would react in a logical way after the kicking and hitting the offending dog fails to have an affect.
 
I think it was a bloody good job she took the photo of the owner as I doubt he'd of been found otherwise and I can see how you'd take the main photo before running off to the vets but I wouldn't have thought to take the ones when my dog was still in the other dogs mouth. Not saying she was wrong to do so just seems a little strange to me
 
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