Irish Draught ad grumble

LMuirEDT

LMuirEDT

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I have a pure bred ID but have been looking through adverts lately and can't understand why so many people put their horses under the ID category when clearly they are not ID!!! Most of them are common cobs which is NOT ID! Or something is labelled as 'Irish cob' so automatically people go for ID category - not the same!

It's probably because I have one that it annoys me but it really does get my goat! Am I alone in this?

Ok rant over...
 
Going off on a tangent, sorry, but I was going to say it annoys me when people spell it draught and not draft
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..... but I googled and found that there are Draft horses, ie Shires, Clydes etc, and Irish Draughts. So as the owner of two part bred IDs, both registered with the ISH, I will stand corrected, if only by myself!
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I know what you mean. When I was looking for a horse a few months ago, I went to see was advertised as IDx when I got there is was quiet obviously a COB argghhh

Stupid thing was if she had advertised it as an Irish Cob it would have sold really quickly as he was particularly nice, with wonderful temperament. Instead she was getting the wrong people (lots of them too)!!
 
But why can't an IDX be a cob? My older horse (and I bought him at conception from friends so know his parents) is ID/Welsh D, and I show him in cob classes! His head is definitely Irish looking, but you wouldn't necessarily say he was pb ID by looks. My youngster, same cross, is very Irish in body but has a very Welsh head.
 
If i was looking to buy a horse and the selection criteria had 'ID' or 'IDx' I would expect all those that were pure ID to be in the ID group and all those that r mixed in the IDx group. I'm not saying part bred ID shouldn't go in the ID section, just that it annoys me when people put Heinz variety cobs in the ID group as if ID is a 'type'

Make Sense?
 
i know what you mean as IDs have a particular "stamp" on them and you know they are pure bred my boy is pure ID and when you look at him to other full or ID xs you can tell that they have ID in them just by looking at them

well i can mainly cause the yard i got my boy on had 28 IDs lol
 
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If i was looking to buy a horse and the selection criteria had 'ID' or 'IDx' I would expect all those that were pure ID to be in the ID group and all those that r mixed in the IDx group. I'm not saying part bred ID shouldn't go in the ID section, just that it annoys me when people put Heinz variety cobs in the ID group as if ID is a 'type'

Make Sense?

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Yes, but I was replying to soulful saying she went to see an ID x and it turned out to be a cob... and as I've said, my older horse is IDx and I show him as a cob!
 
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If i was looking to buy a horse and the selection criteria had 'ID' or 'IDx' I would expect all those that were pure ID to be in the ID group and all those that r mixed in the IDx group. I'm not saying part bred ID shouldn't go in the ID section, just that it annoys me when people put Heinz variety cobs in the ID group as if ID is a 'type'

Make Sense?

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You are so right - drives me mad (as I sell 'proper' Irish Draughts.)

And even MORE annoying - maybe - is this type of ad: )for a 2 year old!

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Truely lovely mare imported from Ireland, with white blaze and 4 white socks, has good movement 3/4 bred papered out of King of Diamonds,

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Now apart from the fact that King of Diamonds was a stallion, not a brood mare, he's been DEAD since 1991!!
 
I dont think you can always tell an ID x - I have seen (properly papered) ID x TB that looks almost pure TB. My boy is actually more TB than ID but looks more ID and a host of variances in between.

But on the basis that are actually very few pure bred ID's on sale it would annoy me also if that was what I was looking for and I kept finding people making generic comments...

I did laugh at JG's comments..... cos just about everything out of Ireland is supposed to be either out of KOD, Clover Hill or Ramiro Z....The good adverts are the ones that quote the bloodlines.....
 
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. cos just about everything out of Ireland is supposed to be either out of KOD, Clover Hill or Ramiro Z...

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And when you're selling pure IDs, you BOAST that there's NO KoD, Clover Hill or Pride of Shaunlara - as more than 80% of the Irish ID herd have 1 or more of those stallions high up in the pedigree!
 
And there's nothing that annoys me more than people who list any old coloured heinz 57 as a cob.

I don't care how piebald/skewbald it is, if it's got stick thin legs and it's 11hh, its not a bleeding cob!

My cob has ID in the family somewhere, but I don't know where, who or what. She'd look pure if she were only a hand or two bigger!!
 
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