Irish horse passport & DNA testing

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I recently bought a new horse via an Irish dealer. To look at I'd say he is probably a Connie x. Vetting cert (I had a 5 stage vetting) just says "Irish Sports Horse" so pretty generic. He has a white Irish passport and all parentage is "unknown" yet the passport is stamped to say he has been DNA tested. Why bother to DNA test if parentage is unknown?

Is there any way I can find out some more about him from the DNA sample that was taken? Presumably the results must be held with the PIA. I have contact details for the dealer (I actually bought him from someone I know, who had him from the dealer earlier this year.. person I know bought him to play with and sell on) so could contact him directly. I'm not particularly fussed about parentage or what his breeding is because he's ace and it doesn't matter :D But I am interested to know why you would DNA test something that is unknown parentage... presumably that would be reserved for horses which you want to enter into a particular stud book/ onto a register?

Thanks :)
 
You could contact Horse Sport Ireland which is now the holder of the Irish Strud Book to find out what information is contained in the DNA testing. Dna is used both to confirm parentage and to identify the horse.
 
I was thinking about doing this, glad I found this thread! Same as you, it doesn't matter to me who her parents are but I'd love to find out.
 
You would DNA to match the microchip in geldings so if your horse is nicked and microchip number is found on a horse matching your's description you can take a DNA sample and match it. It is also used for mares and stallions so the off spring can be registered with DNA typed parents.
 
You would DNA to match the microchip in geldings so if your horse is nicked and microchip number is found on a horse matching your's description you can take a DNA sample and match it. It is also used for mares and stallions so the off spring can be registered with DNA typed parents.

Ah OK, that makes sense now! There is a microchip number on passport and the same is on the vetting cert so I presume my vet scanned for it (I'll ask when she comes out for next set of jabs).
 
A white passport you say? Well that's perculiar, I owned a fully registered Irish Sports horse and his passport was green and stamped to the Irish Sports Horse studbook.
My current horse is a Connie x and he just has the generic white passport, if this horse is a registered Irish Sports horse then it should have a green passport...
 
A white passport you say? Well that's perculiar, I owned a fully registered Irish Sports horse and his passport was green and stamped to the Irish Sports Horse studbook.
My current horse is a Connie x and he just has the generic white passport, if this horse is a registered Irish Sports horse then it should have a green passport...

White book is issued by Horse Sport Ireland to horses with no parentage recorded, blue book for only one parent recorded, green is for full record. He could have been DNA tested if he was reputed to be by a particular sire however obviously this was found not to be the case
 
White passports are issued for anything which has no breeding recorded in the Irish Studbook. For instance, my full bred Friesian mare has a white Irish passport because her Friesian breeding is not registered in the Irish studbook, and is therefore listed as "breeding not recorded".
 
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