Equus Leather
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Not really looking to start a debate about firing, I'm just trying to argue with someone that firing is illegal.....is it?? Can anyone point me in some legitimate sources of info regarding its legality?
Is firing illegal??
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sloulou
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Equus Leather
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Thanks Widget.
vieshot
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Nope its not illegal! Your friend is right!
sloulou
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shame to lose an arguement tho
at least you were right in that is has been in the past
Equus Leather
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Quite, am a bit peed off now!
jumpthemoon
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doh!!! I thought this was a debate about sacking grooms!
william99
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I think firing is very outdated but it does still goon, there are better ways of treatment now
sloulou
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doh!!! I thought this was a debate about sacking grooms!
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we could start one?
doh!!! I thought this was a debate about sacking grooms!
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we could start one?
sallythomas
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Does anyone think Firing works?
chestnut cob
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I presume you mean legs? My Welshy had his soft palate fired in January to help with breathing problems and it worked a treat. Vet said it was pretty much the only treatment for his condition.
PapaFrita
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I thought it was illegal too!
Shilasdair
Patting her thylacine
I was always told that firing was often done to convince racehorse owners and the like to rest their horses after tendon injuries...as there's often not much to see after 'a tendon' but trainers could justify resting better with physical signs on the legs.
Not saying it's right though...
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Not saying it's right though...
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JanetGeorge
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I was always told that firing was often done to convince racehorse owners and the like to rest their horses after tendon injuries...as there's often not much to see after 'a tendon' but trainers could justify resting better with physical signs on the legs.
Not saying it's right though...
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True! When I worked with racehorses the trainer's vet said it was a total waste of effort but he did it if the owners wanted it done - purely because it would make them give the horse the treatment it actually needed - more time in the field! One of the horses actually got 12 months off as a result of pinfiring - the holes got infected with Golden Staph which just wouldn't heal up!
I was always told that firing was often done to convince racehorse owners and the like to rest their horses after tendon injuries...as there's often not much to see after 'a tendon' but trainers could justify resting better with physical signs on the legs.
Not saying it's right though...
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True! When I worked with racehorses the trainer's vet said it was a total waste of effort but he did it if the owners wanted it done - purely because it would make them give the horse the treatment it actually needed - more time in the field! One of the horses actually got 12 months off as a result of pinfiring - the holes got infected with Golden Staph which just wouldn't heal up!
vicijp
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One of the horses actually got 12 months off as a result of pinfiring - the holes got infected with Golden Staph which just wouldn't heal up!
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Id hope so too, 12 months is the absolute minimum a horse needs off after firing. Far too many people see it as a quick fix and only give 3-6 months off - they are the people that give it bad press.
One of the horses actually got 12 months off as a result of pinfiring - the holes got infected with Golden Staph which just wouldn't heal up!
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Id hope so too, 12 months is the absolute minimum a horse needs off after firing. Far too many people see it as a quick fix and only give 3-6 months off - they are the people that give it bad press.
JanetGeorge
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Id hope so too, 12 months is the absolute minimum a horse needs off after firing. Far too many people see it as a quick fix and only give 3-6 months off - they are the people that give it bad press.
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But it doesn't matter HOW much time you give off after firing - it's the same as if you gave the time off WITHOUT firing. And firing deserves bad press - it's fairly barbaric and totally ineffective! The VERY sad thing about the horse with the staph infection was that he was pin fired 'as a precaution' - NOT because he had a problem (other than being a VERY big TB - 17.3 as a 3 year old colt!)
Id hope so too, 12 months is the absolute minimum a horse needs off after firing. Far too many people see it as a quick fix and only give 3-6 months off - they are the people that give it bad press.
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But it doesn't matter HOW much time you give off after firing - it's the same as if you gave the time off WITHOUT firing. And firing deserves bad press - it's fairly barbaric and totally ineffective! The VERY sad thing about the horse with the staph infection was that he was pin fired 'as a precaution' - NOT because he had a problem (other than being a VERY big TB - 17.3 as a 3 year old colt!)
Flame_
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I thought it was still legal in Ireland but I could be wrong.
sarah23
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Id hope so too, 12 months is the absolute minimum a horse needs off after firing. Far too many people see it as a quick fix and only give 3-6 months off - they are the people that give it bad press.
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But it doesn't matter HOW much time you give off after firing - it's the same as if you gave the time off WITHOUT firing. And firing deserves bad press - it's fairly barbaric and totally ineffective! The VERY sad thing about the horse with the staph infection was that he was pin fired 'as a precaution' - NOT because he had a problem (other than being a VERY big TB - 17.3 as a 3 year old colt!)
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Sorry but rest alone does not always work. I had my local vet out to my horse (may years ago now) how told me to give him 2yrs off. I was then told by someone else to get a second opinion, which i did by the top vets at newbury at the time they told me a could of give the horse 5yrs off, and the first time i did any canter work his legs would of gone again as the tendon was so bad. The only way to save him was to have him fired which i did. He is now 16 and i don't regret it at all.
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Id hope so too, 12 months is the absolute minimum a horse needs off after firing. Far too many people see it as a quick fix and only give 3-6 months off - they are the people that give it bad press.
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But it doesn't matter HOW much time you give off after firing - it's the same as if you gave the time off WITHOUT firing. And firing deserves bad press - it's fairly barbaric and totally ineffective! The VERY sad thing about the horse with the staph infection was that he was pin fired 'as a precaution' - NOT because he had a problem (other than being a VERY big TB - 17.3 as a 3 year old colt!)
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Sorry but rest alone does not always work. I had my local vet out to my horse (may years ago now) how told me to give him 2yrs off. I was then told by someone else to get a second opinion, which i did by the top vets at newbury at the time they told me a could of give the horse 5yrs off, and the first time i did any canter work his legs would of gone again as the tendon was so bad. The only way to save him was to have him fired which i did. He is now 16 and i don't regret it at all.
vicijp
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It is not totally ineffective. It makes the legs a pair and eliminates re-occurence through overcompensation.
christmaself
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I may be wrong - but I think it was banned for a short time about 10 years ago. It was then re allowed.