LittleBlossom
Active Member
http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/survey/pollhistory.php?qid=3503
I understand the sentiment, but really?!
I understand the sentiment, but really?!
Is it just me or is this a ridiculous idea...
- Thread starter LittleBlossom
- Start date
Digger123
Well-Known Member
Can you imagine the size of poop scoop bags you would have to carry
LittleBlossom
Active Member
Ha ha ha, so basically a roll of bin bags and a shovel on your back!
rolls1392
Well-Known Member
This is so ridiculous that some numpty will make it law and we all have to clear up behind us. Had a "discussion?" on a recent hanck with townie visitor that horse was not toxic unlike dog poo. She didn't think that putting it on her roses was a good idea either. She said she uses proper manure?
Wonder whre that comes from??
Wonder whre that comes from??
dozzie
Well-Known Member
[ QUOTE ]
She said she uses proper manure?
Wonder where that comes from??
[/ QUOTE ]
From the Garden Centre! £5.00 a bag minimum!
PMSL!
She said she uses proper manure?
Wonder where that comes from??
[/ QUOTE ]
From the Garden Centre! £5.00 a bag minimum!
PMSL!
Oxfordplum
New User
interesting to see this - on a hack yesterday a man shouted from his garden 'have you got a shovel to pick that up???' I go along with the 'do everything you can to keep people happy' , partly because I don't want angry people scaring my horse and creating dangerous situations but this is sooo impractical. You see police horse manure all the time in city centres !
NeilM
Well-Known Member
We had a couple of elderly ladies watch my OH and I ride past the other day. We said hello and they asked when the horses were going to 'leave some nice manure for them'. We offered to deliver some bagged up, as we said we had plenty! 'Oh, YES PLEASE' was the reaction.
If only other people were so wise
If only other people were so wise
keeperscottage
Well-Known Member
On a more serious note, my 20 year old daughter CANNOT mount from the ground owing to 17 inches of titatium in her left leg - she even has a disabled badge for her car! Once on her horses (either a 16.1hh TB of 17.1hh TB) she's fine, but she does not have the "bend" in her leg to enable her to mount from the ground. Equally, if I'm riding either of her nags, at 5'5 and 54 years of age, no, I can't get on from the ground either!
Brandysnap
Well-Known Member
Hi NeilM + other friends (your ladies sound great, Neil!)
I fortunately have regular clients who are happy to have good poo as a take-away! Free to good home at mo, but i really do think we should start charging for such an eco-friendly, organic product, + maybe push ourselves a little more?(They'll probably think it's even better if it's costly!) (So mine is now Pick-Your Own, £5 per 5K bag)
Good luck, friends, and may we all capitalise on our equine friends' waste products in these difficult times!
BS x
PS: Hi Moderator, i think we maybe have 2 topics under same heading, hence response in different vein from another lady, all bests, BS x
I fortunately have regular clients who are happy to have good poo as a take-away! Free to good home at mo, but i really do think we should start charging for such an eco-friendly, organic product, + maybe push ourselves a little more?(They'll probably think it's even better if it's costly!) (So mine is now Pick-Your Own, £5 per 5K bag)
Good luck, friends, and may we all capitalise on our equine friends' waste products in these difficult times!
PS: Hi Moderator, i think we maybe have 2 topics under same heading, hence response in different vein from another lady, all bests, BS x
MiJodsR2BlinkinTite
Well-Known Member
This is just another example of bureaucracy gone raving bonkers!
Dog poo is toxic, OK - BUT when did you last hear of the last time some kid died of toxi-whateveritis? and that has given the councils freedom to enlist a batallion of nazi's to spy on dog walkers, at great expense to all of us taxpayers. Also, when out hacking, one sees dog poo in plastic bags tied up on bushes coz either someone is too idle to dispose of it, or, more probably, there aint any bins to bung it in. Where is common sense gone? Dog poo - like horse poo, will biodegrade quite naturally and harmlessley.
If I was to put anything on my horse near his back legs to catch poo or whatever, then I can see how he'd like that! and then there WOULD be an accident for sure!!
If anyone doubts the police state is upon us, doubt no more. Hunting first, next we'll have to be licenced to go on the public highway (or else banished completely as it will be too dangerous - its fast getting that way).
Hey, blame Tony Blair, its all his fault!!
Dog poo is toxic, OK - BUT when did you last hear of the last time some kid died of toxi-whateveritis? and that has given the councils freedom to enlist a batallion of nazi's to spy on dog walkers, at great expense to all of us taxpayers. Also, when out hacking, one sees dog poo in plastic bags tied up on bushes coz either someone is too idle to dispose of it, or, more probably, there aint any bins to bung it in. Where is common sense gone? Dog poo - like horse poo, will biodegrade quite naturally and harmlessley.
If I was to put anything on my horse near his back legs to catch poo or whatever, then I can see how he'd like that! and then there WOULD be an accident for sure!!
If anyone doubts the police state is upon us, doubt no more. Hunting first, next we'll have to be licenced to go on the public highway (or else banished completely as it will be too dangerous - its fast getting that way).
Hey, blame Tony Blair, its all his fault!!
tinafletcher1
Active Member
Yes I too have been shouted at to pick that up. Trouble is the nice rose gardens are being replaced with nice trouble free block paving!!
Brandysnap
Well-Known Member
Hi all friends,
Let's just talk to the folk who moan about horse poo, + educate them a little.
Maybe we should all remember where human poo goes? Into rivers, by one means or other.
(I'm proud to know somebody who worked with somebody in Liverpool who had one of the Queen's poos in a jar on his bench, when Queen's toilet on Britannia got blocked!!)
We all have to poo, and horse and sheep poo are the least problem of all, surely? Next stop - demanding all sheep farmers pick up all sheep poo (looking ahead - god help dairy farmers....?!)
More realistically, maybe the effects that the human female contraceptive pill is having on the salmon population, and rivers in general, with subsequent environmental repercussions, is well worth looking at, as oestrogen is released into our rivers, as us ladies piddle into our toilets?
It's a question unanswered, and unaddressed, and i also understand that our plastic waste stuff also contains oestrogen-like stuff, so no wonder our fish are depleting.
Think + find out more, friends, so we're all well prepared for the next attack on riders! All bests, BS x
Let's just talk to the folk who moan about horse poo, + educate them a little.
Maybe we should all remember where human poo goes? Into rivers, by one means or other.
(I'm proud to know somebody who worked with somebody in Liverpool who had one of the Queen's poos in a jar on his bench, when Queen's toilet on Britannia got blocked!!)
We all have to poo, and horse and sheep poo are the least problem of all, surely? Next stop - demanding all sheep farmers pick up all sheep poo (looking ahead - god help dairy farmers....?!)
More realistically, maybe the effects that the human female contraceptive pill is having on the salmon population, and rivers in general, with subsequent environmental repercussions, is well worth looking at, as oestrogen is released into our rivers, as us ladies piddle into our toilets?
It's a question unanswered, and unaddressed, and i also understand that our plastic waste stuff also contains oestrogen-like stuff, so no wonder our fish are depleting.
Think + find out more, friends, so we're all well prepared for the next attack on riders! All bests, BS x
Brandysnap
Well-Known Member
Hi MiJodsr2blinkingtite,
Best name ever!!
I feel very sad that this has affected Devon. I'm in NW, rural Cheshire, commuter belt Liverpool + Manchester, so expected differing views from your lovely area. The people in our nearest village mainly consist of either commuters, or folk who never go out/both! Apart from my partner + i, and regulars in our locals.
Sad to report that society round here is much the same. Don't seem to have any clue about the country way of life.
Only thing i can think of is the dangling nappy thing around a horse's legs, which is apparent in Blackpool?
But let's apply this idea to a fit hunter/competition horse/'quiet hack'/kid's 'safe pony', and see what the Health + Safety lot have to say, after hearing expert witnesses?! Hopefully before a fatality.
All bests, BS x
Best name ever!!
I feel very sad that this has affected Devon. I'm in NW, rural Cheshire, commuter belt Liverpool + Manchester, so expected differing views from your lovely area. The people in our nearest village mainly consist of either commuters, or folk who never go out/both! Apart from my partner + i, and regulars in our locals.
Sad to report that society round here is much the same. Don't seem to have any clue about the country way of life.
Only thing i can think of is the dangling nappy thing around a horse's legs, which is apparent in Blackpool?
But let's apply this idea to a fit hunter/competition horse/'quiet hack'/kid's 'safe pony', and see what the Health + Safety lot have to say, after hearing expert witnesses?! Hopefully before a fatality.
All bests, BS x
Dopeonarope
Well-Known Member
I was told off recently by the police (!) for riding along a stretch of road with a sign 'no vehicles'. When I said my horse is not a vehicle they advised me that in fact a horse is considered a vehicle under UK law.
Just a thought:
If this is the case - surely its poo should be considered "emissions" rather than fouling?
Just a thought:
If this is the case - surely its poo should be considered "emissions" rather than fouling?
Dopeonarope
Well-Known Member
... no more riding in Hide Park then ... LOW EMISSIONS ZONE ... hehehe
LittleBlossom
Active Member
Just read that thing about the Queen's poo, never heard anything so funny, and frankly revolting, in all my life...
Gingernags
Well-Known Member
[ QUOTE ]
I was told off recently by the police (!) for riding along a stretch of road with a sign 'no vehicles'. When I said my horse is not a vehicle they advised me that in fact a horse is considered a vehicle under UK law.
[/ QUOTE ]
They are actually wrong. A horse only becomes a vehicle if you have a cart behind it. To be a vehicle it has to have wheels. Hence we can, if we chose to, go the wrong way up a one way street etc. much as a person on foot can - but not a cyclist!
I was told off recently by the police (!) for riding along a stretch of road with a sign 'no vehicles'. When I said my horse is not a vehicle they advised me that in fact a horse is considered a vehicle under UK law.
[/ QUOTE ]
They are actually wrong. A horse only becomes a vehicle if you have a cart behind it. To be a vehicle it has to have wheels. Hence we can, if we chose to, go the wrong way up a one way street etc. much as a person on foot can - but not a cyclist!
Brandysnap
Well-Known Member
Hi LittleBlossom,
It's a true tale, glad it made you laugh! It was just lads, joking on Liverpool docks, with Liverpool humour. No malice whatsoever, and all respects to our Queen, makes Her seem like one of us somehow, and sure she'd share our humour, sad she's never been able to, hope the day will come! Love + laughs, BS x
It's a true tale, glad it made you laugh! It was just lads, joking on Liverpool docks, with Liverpool humour. No malice whatsoever, and all respects to our Queen, makes Her seem like one of us somehow, and sure she'd share our humour, sad she's never been able to, hope the day will come! Love + laughs, BS x
Brandysnap
Well-Known Member
Hi all friends,
I think we all have a problem with the police.
Like - they can't seem to differentiate between serious problems and minor ones.
It would appear that dealing with the minor ones gives them an easier day at work...
(Never been my own work philosophy, but learnt over years that i'm in a minority, as a hard worker)
I'm well aware of serious drug problems in our area (Cheshire), and where it's happening (Chester/Blacon, Northwich, but spreading). We all know who the local dealers are, and our country local's landlord has barred them all, but local police don't tackle the problem at all.
However, tonight, our same country local got hit by the immigration lot (there's a Chinese takeaway there). 2nd/3rd time it's happened. If they'd evidence, surely they should have sorted it on their first hit? Or do it in a more sensitive way, + sensible time, if they cocked up first time - not 6.30pm on a Friday, when it's busy?
It just spoilt a nice night out with our friends, folk had ordered and paid for food other folk were waiting for food in restaurant... they were told the score by a PC, but 'score' from him differed, according to who asked. This same PC ordered a local friend out after he challenged their presence .... (big mistake, i've got gloves on now)
Lovely landlord very stressed, hassle all round.
Stinks.
Many of us think that this was a result of Masonic influence (chap next door, Mason, has tried to close pub down by various means, over past few years)
Any other friends had anything similar?
I think we all have a problem with the police.
Like - they can't seem to differentiate between serious problems and minor ones.
It would appear that dealing with the minor ones gives them an easier day at work...
(Never been my own work philosophy, but learnt over years that i'm in a minority, as a hard worker)
I'm well aware of serious drug problems in our area (Cheshire), and where it's happening (Chester/Blacon, Northwich, but spreading). We all know who the local dealers are, and our country local's landlord has barred them all, but local police don't tackle the problem at all.
However, tonight, our same country local got hit by the immigration lot (there's a Chinese takeaway there). 2nd/3rd time it's happened. If they'd evidence, surely they should have sorted it on their first hit? Or do it in a more sensitive way, + sensible time, if they cocked up first time - not 6.30pm on a Friday, when it's busy?
It just spoilt a nice night out with our friends, folk had ordered and paid for food other folk were waiting for food in restaurant... they were told the score by a PC, but 'score' from him differed, according to who asked. This same PC ordered a local friend out after he challenged their presence .... (big mistake, i've got gloves on now)
Lovely landlord very stressed, hassle all round.
Stinks.
Many of us think that this was a result of Masonic influence (chap next door, Mason, has tried to close pub down by various means, over past few years)
Any other friends had anything similar?
Mike007
Well-Known Member
Hey, blame Tony Blair, its all his fault!!
[/ QUOTE ] Actually I blame all the people who voted the two faced slimey git in.
Silverspring
Well-Known Member
MY friend was nearly killed losing control of his motorbike when hitting horse [****] left on the road...I don't think it would take much effort to get off and kick the poo to the side of the road, I know I do!
Brandysnap
Well-Known Member
Hi mike007,
Funny you should say that.. Gordon Brown got the blame this time! Unanimous opinion in our local, where we are from all walks of life.
(Apart from a rich old director of a small chemical company in Widnes renowned for explosions + killing people, now retired on a fat pension, who thinks Tony and Gordon are great)
Bearing in mind our great landlord already has a pic of Alistair Darling behind bars, as he is barred from his pub!!
Going back to original topic, the question was about poo? Apologies if i've digressed, but i don't think i have! I think that since Labour were elected, in the days when i had an open mind about politics, the UK has gone downhill dramatically, and i've changed my mind dramatically. Maybe our economic situation will confirm my view?
I've even started snarling at traffic wardens as they take vehicles' details. (If i go into town on Park + Ride, i feel free to growl and snap also!! I might just bite a leg off one of them tomorrow!!)
Back to poo, which is topic in question - 2 nice horses + 2 nice riders stopped for a drink in our local today. One of the horses relieved himself on his way out of the car park, + a local said to me 'och, B, they doont s*** like they used to - when i was a bairn thee were hard pellets, now theyrrre like a bullocks'. I explained about grass versus hard feed, but he wasn't listening, and he's deaf as a coot anyway, so i left him with his own views.
Let's keep thinking, laughing + pooing! BS x
Funny you should say that.. Gordon Brown got the blame this time! Unanimous opinion in our local, where we are from all walks of life.
(Apart from a rich old director of a small chemical company in Widnes renowned for explosions + killing people, now retired on a fat pension, who thinks Tony and Gordon are great)
Bearing in mind our great landlord already has a pic of Alistair Darling behind bars, as he is barred from his pub!!
Going back to original topic, the question was about poo? Apologies if i've digressed, but i don't think i have! I think that since Labour were elected, in the days when i had an open mind about politics, the UK has gone downhill dramatically, and i've changed my mind dramatically. Maybe our economic situation will confirm my view?
I've even started snarling at traffic wardens as they take vehicles' details. (If i go into town on Park + Ride, i feel free to growl and snap also!! I might just bite a leg off one of them tomorrow!!)
Back to poo, which is topic in question - 2 nice horses + 2 nice riders stopped for a drink in our local today. One of the horses relieved himself on his way out of the car park, + a local said to me 'och, B, they doont s*** like they used to - when i was a bairn thee were hard pellets, now theyrrre like a bullocks'. I explained about grass versus hard feed, but he wasn't listening, and he's deaf as a coot anyway, so i left him with his own views.
Let's keep thinking, laughing + pooing! BS x
Brandysnap
Well-Known Member
Hi PrincessSparkle,
My apologies that i've never realised how dangerous it could be to bike riders, thank you for making me realise. I hope all other friends read this, while recognising that it's not always possible to get off + kick poo to the side for a variety of reasons, but i will endeavour to do so, if road + traffic conditions permit.
But this raises another question of safety when mounting on a road! Along with mounting a 17hh TB from the ground - what damage to his thoracic vertebrae.
Best solution? Stay off roads. But how many of us can do this? I can't. Maybe if i came back in a vehicle + picked it up? After countless vehicles have squashed it into the tarmac...
Maybe a more realistic way of looking at things is to watch (+ teach others) what's ahead on the road, and maybe driving + motorbike test should include driving through half a mile of slimey cow poo on a winding country lane, which is what we often encounter?
All bests, BS x
My apologies that i've never realised how dangerous it could be to bike riders, thank you for making me realise. I hope all other friends read this, while recognising that it's not always possible to get off + kick poo to the side for a variety of reasons, but i will endeavour to do so, if road + traffic conditions permit.
But this raises another question of safety when mounting on a road! Along with mounting a 17hh TB from the ground - what damage to his thoracic vertebrae.
Best solution? Stay off roads. But how many of us can do this? I can't. Maybe if i came back in a vehicle + picked it up? After countless vehicles have squashed it into the tarmac...
Maybe a more realistic way of looking at things is to watch (+ teach others) what's ahead on the road, and maybe driving + motorbike test should include driving through half a mile of slimey cow poo on a winding country lane, which is what we often encounter?
All bests, BS x
Silverspring
Well-Known Member
[ QUOTE ]
But this raises another question of safety when mounting on a road! Along with mounting a 17hh TB from the ground - what damage to his thoracic vertebrae.
[/ QUOTE ]
Well there is the option to mount like a jockey, leap off both legs belly over then mount properly?
Not that I imagine many people are able to do this, esp not onto a 17.2! I think you would have to weigh up the potential damage to the horse's spine against the potential damage to other road users...it's a personal decision.
I would say (and this was my friends arguement) that if a farmer left cow [****] or mud on the road that caused an accident they would be liable to be sued. Lucky for us horse owners trying to trace a poo that kills a cyclist/moterbiker/car driver is almost impossible
[ QUOTE ]
Maybe a more realistic way of looking at things is to watch (+ teach others) what's ahead on the road, and maybe driving + motorbike test should include driving through half a mile of slimey cow poo on a winding country lane, which is what we often encounter?
[/ QUOTE ]
I agree completely but if your horse shits on a blind corner a biker cannot swerve like a car can, these guys go into a corner on the line they want/need to take, if the poo happens to be on that line and they have to adjust the line they can risk either losing the turn altogether (and going straight into what ever is infront of them hedge/fence/telegraph pole!) or losing the bike underneith them and it falling on the road (often into on coming traffic lane!)
I'm not saying I know the solution to the problem, I think there are other road users out there far more irresponsible than horse riders who leave poop on the road but I would ask that if you can safely dismount and remount then please do
But this raises another question of safety when mounting on a road! Along with mounting a 17hh TB from the ground - what damage to his thoracic vertebrae.
[/ QUOTE ]
Well there is the option to mount like a jockey, leap off both legs belly over then mount properly?
I would say (and this was my friends arguement) that if a farmer left cow [****] or mud on the road that caused an accident they would be liable to be sued. Lucky for us horse owners trying to trace a poo that kills a cyclist/moterbiker/car driver is almost impossible
[ QUOTE ]
Maybe a more realistic way of looking at things is to watch (+ teach others) what's ahead on the road, and maybe driving + motorbike test should include driving through half a mile of slimey cow poo on a winding country lane, which is what we often encounter?
[/ QUOTE ]
I agree completely but if your horse shits on a blind corner a biker cannot swerve like a car can, these guys go into a corner on the line they want/need to take, if the poo happens to be on that line and they have to adjust the line they can risk either losing the turn altogether (and going straight into what ever is infront of them hedge/fence/telegraph pole!) or losing the bike underneith them and it falling on the road (often into on coming traffic lane!)
I'm not saying I know the solution to the problem, I think there are other road users out there far more irresponsible than horse riders who leave poop on the road but I would ask that if you can safely dismount and remount then please do
Brandysnap
Well-Known Member
Hi again PrincessSparkle,
Point well taken, + i very much respect that i was previously unaware of the dangers of horse poo to motorcyclists. Thanks for making me aware x.
When i was 18 (in 1737
), i lost a very good friend, when he + his bike somehow ran over a roundabout instead of round it (no other vehicles involved)
The inquest conclusion was 'excessive speed'.
I'm not suggesting in any way that speed was the cause of your friend's accident - maybe the horse was on a country road, with 60 mph limit, yet chose to poo on a bend (Sod's Law always so reliable!), but if we all must continue to share increasingly busy + faster roads, we need to recognise who else may be on them + who have left their mark?
I have no answer, friend, except that i only wish we didn't need to ride on roads. No doubt lawyers will jump on any claims as a new great topic, in a further ambulance-chasing campaign.
In meantime, i remember my dear Paul + the cold verdict 'failure to negotiate a roundabout because of excessive speed'. He was 21, and was teaching me to dive - i've never tried since, seems wrong, somehow.
So, onwards + upwards - how do bikers feel about the new proposed 20 mph? While realising the thrill of speed on a bike - well, us lot are daft enough to ride horses?!!
Hope i've got you all thinking now! I've no answer. Just glad your friend survived, love BS x
(PS: But i need mounting block to get on a 15.2 these days - really must go to those yoga classes!)
Point well taken, + i very much respect that i was previously unaware of the dangers of horse poo to motorcyclists. Thanks for making me aware x.
When i was 18 (in 1737
The inquest conclusion was 'excessive speed'.
I'm not suggesting in any way that speed was the cause of your friend's accident - maybe the horse was on a country road, with 60 mph limit, yet chose to poo on a bend (Sod's Law always so reliable!), but if we all must continue to share increasingly busy + faster roads, we need to recognise who else may be on them + who have left their mark?
I have no answer, friend, except that i only wish we didn't need to ride on roads. No doubt lawyers will jump on any claims as a new great topic, in a further ambulance-chasing campaign.
In meantime, i remember my dear Paul + the cold verdict 'failure to negotiate a roundabout because of excessive speed'. He was 21, and was teaching me to dive - i've never tried since, seems wrong, somehow.
So, onwards + upwards - how do bikers feel about the new proposed 20 mph? While realising the thrill of speed on a bike - well, us lot are daft enough to ride horses?!!
Hope i've got you all thinking now! I've no answer. Just glad your friend survived, love BS x
(PS: But i need mounting block to get on a 15.2 these days - really must go to those yoga classes!)