Dogbetty141
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with pigeon toes and will it affect them in older age? will it stop him form being able to do anything?
is it terrible to have a horse?
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Evil_Cookie
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My mare has oblique knees(sp?) which in turn give her pidgeon toes, she's fine, and haven't found any problems yet, it does depend how severe the problem is though. Sometimes it's just the foot which is reversable, but if its the bone structure its better to leave it alone than try to correct it. My mare is now barefoot for that reason, remedial shoeing was pretty awful for her. It hasn't stopped her from being able to do anything, she's just as fast and silly as I think she'd be without.
I keep an eye on them as they vary a little, hence the pics... sometimes they are nearly normal and other times a little worse. (
Looking almost normal:
Looking at there worst... (need trimming, this was only a few weeks after having her shoes of after 8 years, so they did chip a little)
Hmm those two pics make her look really normal
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I keep an eye on them as they vary a little, hence the pics... sometimes they are nearly normal and other times a little worse. (
Looking almost normal:
Looking at there worst... (need trimming, this was only a few weeks after having her shoes of after 8 years, so they did chip a little)
Hmm those two pics make her look really normal
Better
fairhill
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Thumper had pigeon toes - I got him cheaper because of them, and they didn't cause him any problems whilst I had him.
In fact my farrier did such a good job with him, that when I sold him the buyer remarked how he'd rejected a previous horse because of pigeon toes whilst admiring Thumper's 'straight' feet
In fact my farrier did such a good job with him, that when I sold him the buyer remarked how he'd rejected a previous horse because of pigeon toes whilst admiring Thumper's 'straight' feet
Dogbetty141
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my gg hasnt got it bad but was wondering if it would get worse! My horse doesnt have the greates feet very flat and crack when they are dry!
moodymare1987
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No its not my friends horse had pigeon toes and never had any problems with feet at all. Bens feet crack, he was desp to be shod when you came to see him. Hes done now managed to get hold of farrier.
Evil_Cookie
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My mares feet used to be very dry, we used to lose our expensive made to measure shoes everytime the sun came out, its suprising how good her feet are now. My farrier commented how they get worse with age, I don't think they do though. One thing that I had to keep an eye on was muscle tension under her chest and over her shoulders due to the strain caused by the way her foot lands. Without shoes this is better now and back lady doesn't comment on it anymore. On the other hand the pidgeon toes are the primary cause for my mares large chest and muscled shoulders so no complaining... it makes it look like she's at full fitness even when she's been sitting in a field for months
Artois
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My mum's horse has pigeon toes (was mine as a 3 year old)
He was ok when younger, but as he has got older
it has caused him some problems - he also developed wingals as a result. He is just a pet now and 17 years old
I wouldnt buy a horse with a confirmation fault again (acutually my mum brought him and I just turned up home with him in the stable) but then it depends if you just want a happy hacker or a competition horse.
He was ok when younger, but as he has got older
it has caused him some problems - he also developed wingals as a result. He is just a pet now and 17 years old
I wouldnt buy a horse with a confirmation fault again (acutually my mum brought him and I just turned up home with him in the stable) but then it depends if you just want a happy hacker or a competition horse.
SpaceMolly
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My boy has very slight pigeon toes, I was told when I got him vetted at purchase not to muck around with it as it was only very slight. It has caused problems with shoeing, he has just gone unshod allround as he kept losing the same front shoe every four weeks. He seems to be fine and I am told he will cope better with shoes when he is fully mature and knows where to put his feet(he is only just 4). Vet told me at the time of purchase that as it was so slight he didnt think it would cause any major problems.
Dogbetty141
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it is very slight on my 15yr old TB how will it take before he has problems then do you reckon? i suppose its the luck of the draw really but hazard a guess if you can!
vicijp
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If the horse moves straight, then a lot can be done by a good farrier.
I wouldnt consider it if they had offset knees.
I wouldnt consider it if they had offset knees.
Morrigan_Lady
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Arch is slightly pigeon toed and it causes him to dish.
But, saying that, he has got better. As a four year old, he dished quite badly, but he's now 6 and its not as bad.
I think he's soooo cute when he's stod on the yard looking at me with his little toes pointing inwards, it makes him special !!!
But, saying that, he has got better. As a four year old, he dished quite badly, but he's now 6 and its not as bad.
I think he's soooo cute when he's stod on the yard looking at me with his little toes pointing inwards, it makes him special !!!
Evil_Cookie
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it is very slight on my 15yr old TB how will it take before he has problems then do you reckon? i suppose its the luck of the draw really but hazard a guess if you can!
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Thats like asking how long is a piece of rope... if he's sound now he may be fine for years or maybe not.... it depends a lot on the horse, I would guess that a horse who works in self carriage and is lighter on his front legs would be sounder for longer though, but thats just guessing.
it is very slight on my 15yr old TB how will it take before he has problems then do you reckon? i suppose its the luck of the draw really but hazard a guess if you can!
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Thats like asking how long is a piece of rope... if he's sound now he may be fine for years or maybe not.... it depends a lot on the horse, I would guess that a horse who works in self carriage and is lighter on his front legs would be sounder for longer though, but thats just guessing.
at work
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My 17yo has pigeon toes and she's never had a problem, still sound and still doing rc dressage. If the rest of the conformation is OK and it is slight, it's not terrible
Magicmillbrook
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My TBx has a slight deviation of the right cannon bone resulting in one slightly turned in toe. She was a BSJA pony so has been worked fairly hard over the years. As an 18 year old she now has slight arthritis in both fronts and tends to get tight through her shoulders. I feed linseed daily and use cortflex if she has a stiff spell. I have osteo on her twice a year and she is shod evey six weeks by a fab farrier.
Its likely that the twist has made her arthritis/tightness worse, however any horse that has jumped from an early age could suffer the same amount of deterioration by her age. Chances are that any thing that is not in good alignment is going to put more stress and strain on the joints etc.
Its likely that the twist has made her arthritis/tightness worse, however any horse that has jumped from an early age could suffer the same amount of deterioration by her age. Chances are that any thing that is not in good alignment is going to put more stress and strain on the joints etc.
TarrSteps
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Toeing in is not unheard of in top level dressage horses. In fact there is a school of thought that if the deviation is bilateral and affects the complete leg then it can provide for freer elbow/shoulder rotation and actually help in some movements.
I think it's a bigger deal in jumping horses and if the twist is only in one leg and/or from the knee or fetlock down. Much more chance of force being unevenly distributed and potentially more damaging.
I think it's a bigger deal in jumping horses and if the twist is only in one leg and/or from the knee or fetlock down. Much more chance of force being unevenly distributed and potentially more damaging.
Dogbetty141
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we do dressage and little jumping so thats good news hey! thanks for the help guys! was worried for a few days about this!
MagicMelon
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I had a horse with pigeon toes, didnt make any difference to her jumping etc. and now she's in a pony club home. Obviously she's still pretty young though so dont know what'll happen when she's older. No probs so far.