Melody Grey
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Karidox!
Is PTS a reasonable choice for my mare?
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RHGR
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Will discuss this with the vet when I speak to them. Sadly she reacts badly to gastrogard so we can't get a prescription for cheaper as if we try omeprazole again she will need to be given the injectable stuff again, which is more expensive especially when you're paying vet call out every week. Though if they thought there was a reasonable chance of that working we could at least add up costs and see what we are working with. Thank you for the help
RHGR
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How would you feed the aloe Vera? Can you buy it from equestrian stores? Never heard of it being fed before!
Winters100
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I also would not xray the back / neck. Not because I think that it is wrong to do so, but for the same reason that you give, that the chance of her ever being a happy horse seems to be so low.
Of course I do not know the horse, and it is for the owner to decide, but I would imagine that every new investigation is a stress for her, even something non-invasive like an xray. This horse is clearly loved, and the owner has been following the advice of the vet and trying to treat her. Sadly it is a fact of life that sometimes, whatever we do, we can give no other help to our animals than to let them go without suffering further. For me, if I still had a horse who was unhappy and in pain at this point, it would be time to say goodbye. She has been through so much already, having a diagnosis of KS or anything else would not make a difference to me, because I would still be looking at an unhappy animal.
OP I am truly sorry for you, you clearly love her to bits, and have tried and tried with her. Have a chat with your vet, but if you do put her to sleep I am sure that everyone would understand that you would be doing it with her best interests at heart.
Regandal
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I use this one, it also comes in 5 litres but this size would be enough to find out if it helps. Pour roughly 50 mls on a feed.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aloe-Ver...2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0
wills_91
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From your OP I already thought pts sounded like the right idea and this post sealed it for me. I had my mare pts in 2018, she was 12 and had problems with suspensory ligaments for a few years. It was the loss of spark in her and a "dullness" that made me realise the time was right. The initial phone call and lead up to the day was horrendous. I sobbed horribly on the morning of the day. But once it was done and I'd said my good bye I felt an immense weight was lifted. Your horse has no thought for tomorrow.
It's a horrible decision to make but do not let others views hinder your decision, you know your horse better than anyone.
Xmas lucky
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You need to discuss this with a vet not on a public forum over to pts or not. It’s sounds more like money issues than the horse behavior issues. why would you be kicked out yard most yard should be able to deal with a problem horse . Op I would be more included to just retire the horse.
RHGR
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The yard I'm on has a good 20 other liveries and the way the fields are set up means when she jumps out of her field there's 6 owners that can't get their horses in or out to their fields as they share the same walkway. The yard owner has already made the fence higher than everyone else's and given us a bigger field in hopes of keeping her in but it hasn't worked. When she jumps out no one else can deal with her as she is aggressive. A big part of the issue is the fact that this behaviour and aggression seems to come from pain caused by ulcers that will not respond to treatment, something none of the vets have come across (two separate practices involved with the ulcers alone, they have also spoke with the dick vets who couldn't come up with a reason why)
The issue is less the money and more the fact that nothing really seems to help her and although she isn't crippled or having other serious recognised ongoing issues I'm not sure whether this is a level of pain that is acceptable to keep her going with.
Peglo
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OP has asked if it’s time to discuss with her vet if PTS should be considered, not that she’s going to do it because someone said to on the internet. Or that’s how I read it. Certainly doesn’t sound like money is the reason either but if your spending thousands of pounds and your horse is non better, what choice do you have?
OP I’m very sorry your horse is so unhappy. You sound such a loving owner and she’s lucky to have you. Don’t let anyone make you feel bad for your decisions. I can’t imagine how hard it must be to see her in pain and how exhausting it must be day to day. Big hugs.
Trouper
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If I had only one shot left in the locker I would use it to ask Tom Beech (the Osteopathic Vet) to take a look at her to know for sure if there were anything more that could be done (with physio etc) to improve her pelvic issues. He also takes a holistic look at the horse and will be able to advise on the ulcers and diet. Have a look at his FB pages to see the sort of cases he treats.
If nothing came from that, then I would feel I could pts with a clear conscience.
If nothing came from that, then I would feel I could pts with a clear conscience.
Flicker
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Where do you get the sense from the OP‘s posts that this is about money rather than behaviour? She has clearly described a number of behavioural issues that are causing concern. All of which appear to be a good indication that the horse is in some degree of discomfort.
As for discussing this on a ’public forum’ all sorts of issues are discussed on this forum and it is a source of many knowledgable and helpful viewpoints. Well, mostly…. It is entirely appropriate for users to ask other users to offer perspective and experience on issues that they are grappling with.
MiJodsR2BlinkinTite
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^^^ This. End of. No-one could ever put it better.
Having been in similar position to OP it wasn't ever about money; tho' that said to even begin to "fix" my mare would have meant more than I could ever have afforded just to find out what was wrong in the first place let alone begin to address it. But even if I'd had a million pounds to throw at her various problems and get every vet and "remedial therapist" on the planet in, the day that I saw "that look" in her eye I knew what decision I was going to need to make, for her sake.
Ratface
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OP, I'm so sorry that you and your mare are in such an unhappy situation.
You have persevered over time to find answers for her difficult and dangerous behaviour. There seem to be none.
In your situation, I would pts. Your mare would be pain-free. You would no longer be worried about her hurting or causing difficulties for both of you at the yard.
Sending love and courage.
You have persevered over time to find answers for her difficult and dangerous behaviour. There seem to be none.
In your situation, I would pts. Your mare would be pain-free. You would no longer be worried about her hurting or causing difficulties for both of you at the yard.
Sending love and courage.
RHGR
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Thank you, yes this is what I meant. My question was more of a 'would it be appropriate to discuss this with my vet or am I blowing things out of proportion?' sort of thing
wills_91
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I felt the same, unsure if I was blowing things way out of proportion, when I called my vet and asked if she thought it was time, her immediate response was "you know her best". Of course we talked over the treatment options and plans that we could try but she was entirely supportive of me and when I called back a few days later to let her know I was still sure this was the right decision, they couldn't have been kinder.