Marilyn
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The last two times I've visited H&H online it's talking about Katie Price, her marriage break up and equestrian men that have been linked to it. I know it's not her fault or theirs but what do you all think of this?
Is the equestrian world turning into a soap opera?!
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H's mum
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I think it's like real life "riders" I honestly think it's great!
At least it'll dust off that frumpy horsey image!
Kate x
At least it'll dust off that frumpy horsey image!
Kate x
mtj
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sorry to be cynical, but the Sunday Times ran an article a couple of weeks ago about Peter Andre's new albulm soon to be released.
perfect timing for a major publicity stunt
perfect timing for a major publicity stunt
the watcher
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It is just a sure sign of how down market H&H is going IMO.
Taboo1968
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Yep I agree with that one MH!!!!!
stacey_lou
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sorry to be cynical, but the Sunday Times ran an article a couple of weeks ago about Peter Andre's new albulm soon to be released.
perfect timing for a major publicity stunt
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yep i totoally agree.Their Pa/manager is very cleaver and knows exactly how to get ppl to notice them and make them loads of money beacuse the moe money they make the more money she makes.These ppl have more brains than we give them credit for
sorry to be cynical, but the Sunday Times ran an article a couple of weeks ago about Peter Andre's new albulm soon to be released.
perfect timing for a major publicity stunt
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yep i totoally agree.Their Pa/manager is very cleaver and knows exactly how to get ppl to notice them and make them loads of money beacuse the moe money they make the more money she makes.These ppl have more brains than we give them credit for
ironhorse
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It is just a sure sign of how down market H&H is going IMO.
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Sorry, I don't agree. I think that HHO's done an excellent job putting the story across from the riders' perspective.
Equestrian sport has been criticised for having no personalities and thus nothing of interest for the general media and thus potential sponsors - at least by showing the riders as more than one dimensional characters H&H in print and online is trying to move on from this.
The interviews and comment are a great step forward - and I think Sarah Jenkins does a great job in showing the riders' personalities in her writing. A couple of years ago she broke new ground in getting ( I think) Carl and Spencer to talk about their relationship (when it was still on!!!) which would never have been acceptable in the old H&H; she also showed off Emma Hindle's fiery character to its best.
Agree that we don't want to be seen quite like the footballing fraternity but this IS the 21st century!
Yes the Sun et al are well over the top, but no publicity is bad publicity and that goes for equestrian sport as well as the personalities involved...
It is just a sure sign of how down market H&H is going IMO.
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Sorry, I don't agree. I think that HHO's done an excellent job putting the story across from the riders' perspective.
Equestrian sport has been criticised for having no personalities and thus nothing of interest for the general media and thus potential sponsors - at least by showing the riders as more than one dimensional characters H&H in print and online is trying to move on from this.
The interviews and comment are a great step forward - and I think Sarah Jenkins does a great job in showing the riders' personalities in her writing. A couple of years ago she broke new ground in getting ( I think) Carl and Spencer to talk about their relationship (when it was still on!!!) which would never have been acceptable in the old H&H; she also showed off Emma Hindle's fiery character to its best.
Agree that we don't want to be seen quite like the footballing fraternity but this IS the 21st century!
Yes the Sun et al are well over the top, but no publicity is bad publicity and that goes for equestrian sport as well as the personalities involved...
Onyxia
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sorry to be cynical, but the Sunday Times ran an article a couple of weeks ago about Peter Andre's new albulm soon to be released.
perfect timing for a major publicity stunt
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You mean it;s not just me becoming old(er
) and jaded?
"Perfect family" image is put aside on their TV show a couple of weeks ago to show some argueing,then they are splitting up,shouldnt be long until the glossy mags are printing an exclusive about them making up.
BUT...for their children I hope to god I am just old and cynical.
sorry to be cynical, but the Sunday Times ran an article a couple of weeks ago about Peter Andre's new albulm soon to be released.
perfect timing for a major publicity stunt
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You mean it;s not just me becoming old(er
"Perfect family" image is put aside on their TV show a couple of weeks ago to show some argueing,then they are splitting up,shouldnt be long until the glossy mags are printing an exclusive about them making up.
BUT...for their children I hope to god I am just old and cynical.
spaniel
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Soap opera no....pantomime yes.
We have ugly sisters throwing their toys, pantomime dames flouncing about, principle boys doing more than slapping thighs and all the while the little children look on transfixed not realising the car crash they are being entertained by....
We have ugly sisters throwing their toys, pantomime dames flouncing about, principle boys doing more than slapping thighs and all the while the little children look on transfixed not realising the car crash they are being entertained by....
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Donkeymad
Guest
Well said Spaniel
reporters have been saying for days that they suspect this is a ploy, with the split being followed by a re-union, followed by a renewing of vows and possibly followed by a new baby.
reporters have been saying for days that they suspect this is a ploy, with the split being followed by a re-union, followed by a renewing of vows and possibly followed by a new baby.
lilylotus
Active Member
Have to admit I was of a split opinion about KP. On one side I could see the benefit for the industry with the added publicity, but worried she'd drag it down a little. Well she's certainly got Andrew Gould and his family in a pickle. Apparently when she doesn't have a camera in her face she's a really nice person and the brashness is all for the publicity. I think if she really does want to make headway in the industry then she needs to drop the trashy side of her personality. The tabloids would soon get bored and leave her alone if she melded in a little better. Thing is, as stated earlier in the thread, it makes her money. To be honest whether it is a fake split or not, she is dragging respectable people down with her. It Andrew's children I fell sorry for.
bahumbug
Well-Known Member
I would very much doubt that any of the dressage people involved in this, seeing as how it STARTED and how it has panned out, have gone through any pain at all. Some will have been purely on the make. Whether they have thought through the consequences of their comments is another matter, certainly with ref to your point re Andrew's kids. But they knew about what they were doing.
Whatever happened to 'no comment'?
Whatever happened to 'no comment'?
the watcher
Well-Known Member
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It is just a sure sign of how down market H&H is going IMO.
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Sorry, I don't agree. I think that HHO's done an excellent job putting the story across from the riders' perspective.
Equestrian sport has been criticised for having no personalities and thus nothing of interest for the general media and thus potential sponsors - at least by showing the riders as more than one dimensional characters H&H in print and online is trying to move on from this.
The interviews and comment are a great step forward - and I think Sarah Jenkins does a great job in showing the riders' personalities in her writing. A couple of years ago she broke new ground in getting ( I think) Carl and Spencer to talk about their relationship (when it was still on!!!) which would never have been acceptable in the old H&H; she also showed off Emma Hindle's fiery character to its best.
Agree that we don't want to be seen quite like the footballing fraternity but this IS the 21st century!
Yes the Sun et al are well over the top, but no publicity is bad publicity and that goes for equestrian sport as well as the personalities involved...
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Do you not think that this kind of tawdry gossip is already well catered for in an entire raft of other magazines? I couldn't be less interested in Carl or Spencer's relationship TBH, I am interested in their horses, their competitions - not their home lives. I don't see that being in the 21st century requires H&H to change from being the foremost hunting and competition publication to some kind of supermarket takeout.
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It is just a sure sign of how down market H&H is going IMO.
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Sorry, I don't agree. I think that HHO's done an excellent job putting the story across from the riders' perspective.
Equestrian sport has been criticised for having no personalities and thus nothing of interest for the general media and thus potential sponsors - at least by showing the riders as more than one dimensional characters H&H in print and online is trying to move on from this.
The interviews and comment are a great step forward - and I think Sarah Jenkins does a great job in showing the riders' personalities in her writing. A couple of years ago she broke new ground in getting ( I think) Carl and Spencer to talk about their relationship (when it was still on!!!) which would never have been acceptable in the old H&H; she also showed off Emma Hindle's fiery character to its best.
Agree that we don't want to be seen quite like the footballing fraternity but this IS the 21st century!
Yes the Sun et al are well over the top, but no publicity is bad publicity and that goes for equestrian sport as well as the personalities involved...
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Do you not think that this kind of tawdry gossip is already well catered for in an entire raft of other magazines? I couldn't be less interested in Carl or Spencer's relationship TBH, I am interested in their horses, their competitions - not their home lives. I don't see that being in the 21st century requires H&H to change from being the foremost hunting and competition publication to some kind of supermarket takeout.
charliebo
Well-Known Member
I think it is a shame that H&H is including more and more tabloid style journalism. Money and "Celebrity" seem to be becoming more important to the magazine. Is this just a sign of the times? This sort of thing sells magazines and should we blame them for trying to increase sales at the expense of the quality of the publication?
I have been reading H&H since the mid 1980's and it has improved each time they have updated it until the last couple of years.
If you want to read about people's private lives, buy The Sun or The Mirror. (Mind you, I did buy a copy of one of those with the headline "Jordan Jumper: I didn't Hump Her" as I have a friend called Jordan and wanted to cut it out and send it to them!)
I have been reading H&H since the mid 1980's and it has improved each time they have updated it until the last couple of years.
If you want to read about people's private lives, buy The Sun or The Mirror. (Mind you, I did buy a copy of one of those with the headline "Jordan Jumper: I didn't Hump Her" as I have a friend called Jordan and wanted to cut it out and send it to them!)
Divasmum
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The rumours have been going around for several months in dressage circles. It was only a matter of time before the sh-- hit the fan.
YorksG
Over the hill and far awa
While I dislike the importing of 'Tabloid' news into H&H, I think the equestrian world has ALWAYS had an element of soap opera about it, on a local and a national scale, it just wasn't well publisised.