Is there anyone else who has had a very cheeky or stubborn Appaloosa ?

[Lotsoflemons]

So i have had my 6 year old Appaloosa for about 8 months and he is a handful he's stubborn cheeky and naughty ? im just looking for advice from any fellow owners he is so stubborn to the point he will refuse to walk out the field and you have to push him lol and he won't even walk over a pole some days other days hes awesome and then you have days where he's bucking sassy like a mare and has alot of stubborn attitude
any advice welcome ?

 

[ycbm]

Has he been tested for PSSM?
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[Lotsoflemons]

Has he been tested for PSSM?
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No he was vetted not long ago had saddlers you name it he's always been like this even with his previous owners I've read a few things on here and it's quite common for appaloosas to be a handful till there a bit older so im just looking for advice from people who have been thorough that Time and if they had any advice

 

[ycbm]

It's also very common for Appaloosas to have PSSM, sadly, and with behaviour like you are describing I would want to rule it out. I have tested mine for type 1 and if he ever shows symptoms I will also test for type 2.
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[Lotsoflemons]

Hes fine in himself i take him competing fun rides etc he does get a bit stiff in his back legs now and again but it goes after a few minitue

 

[Lotsoflemons]

I dont really know what breed he is other than Appaloosa hes very chunky

 

[Lotsoflemons]

Here

 

[SEL]

Test for PSSM - sounds very typical symptoms

 

[DabDab]

I agree with ycbm. From your description Pssm sounds a lot more likely than a difficult temperament

 

[Lotsoflemons]

Update
he is getting alot better hacking alone he has his moments we have done 3 solo hacks in a row recently and have had no stops or arguments ps he is absolutely fine to hack in company to get out the field we are still having some problems but walking with a bucket of feed to the yard he runs after you ? he is fine to put out in the field now and with a bit of reminding he is going over poles gradually with reassurance we decided not to test for PSSM even tho there is some symptoms i know my horse and he generally is stubborn at times he's getting better slowly we have our days but he's doing it

 

[tristar]

sounds familiar!

 

[I'm Dun]

With his breeding you need to test for PSSM regardless. The fact hes showing symptoms just makes it more urgent. PSSM can and will often improve with regular work but that doesnt mean you arent heading for crisis point.

Why on earth would you not test?

 

[Meowy Catkin]

https://www.animalgenetics.eu/Equine/Genetic_Disease/PSSM.asp

How to collect a sample.
https://www.animalgenetics.eu/Equine/Equine_Test_Now.asp

Cost.
https://www.animalgenetics.eu/Equine/Cost_Pound.asp
PSSM1 - Polysaccharide Storage Myopathy £30.00 5-10 Days

So for £30 plus P&P to Cornwall and the time it takes to pull some hairs, pack and send them you could have some really helpful information.

 

[ycbm]

https://www.animalgenetics.eu/Equine/Genetic_Disease/PSSM.asp

How to collect a sample.
https://www.animalgenetics.eu/Equine/Equine_Test_Now.asp

Cost.
https://www.animalgenetics.eu/Equine/Cost_Pound.asp
PSSM1 - Polysaccharide Storage Myopathy £30.00 5-10 Days

So for £30 plus P&P to Cornwall and the time it takes to pull some hairs, pack and send them you could have some really helpful information.

The type 2 variants seem to be more common, or carousing more issues, and that test is don't in Germany and i think costs nearly £300.
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[Meowy Catkin]

PSSM2 is a muscle biopsy? Or have I miss remembered?

 

[ycbm]

PSSM2 is a muscle biopsy? Or have I miss remembered?

It was, there's a DNA test now,
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[Meowy Catkin]

It was, there's a DNA test now,
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That's much better, so much less invasive.

 

[I'm Dun]

That's much better, so much less invasive.

But sadly not foolproof, but then neither is the biopsy. I think they need another 5yrs at least before we have reliable type 2 testing.