Is this a scam buyer

mjam64

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I have received a couple of emails from a guy called John Tony in reference to a horse I have for sale. The latest email is attached for you all to read and give me your honest opinion as to whether this is a scam buyer. I have asked him 3 times where the horse will be "shipped" to and what he intends to use him for but has completely ignored the questions.

Hello Mandy,

Thanks for your mail back and also for the information of your
(horse) I must tell you am really interested about the (horse) and
also I hope the (horse) is good condition. I want the best that's I'm
saying this.

Concerning the shipment of the (horse) from your location to my
house,this will be taking (horse) of by my shipping agent, who will be
coming directly to your location for the pickup of the (horse). If
there are papers, he can use this for clearance and also for the
shipment of the (horse).This is all the requirements needed at this
time. The shipper agent will handle every other thing necessary when
he Arrive sour O cation.

So i will like to pay £5,000. for the (horse) plus an extra £100 for
you to keep other buyers off till it is picked up by the shipping
agent. So please get back to me, and also keep other buyers off. My
client who owes me will send you a bank certified cheque of £5,900.
Can I trust you to have it cashed, take £5,100. and and send the
balance to the agent, so he will be using the rest of the money for
the pick up of the (horse).?If yes, kindly reply with the following
payment details so I can inform him to make out payment to you.

Thank you.
FIRST NAME......
LAST NAME.
ADDRESS.......
CITY.......
STATE....
ZIP CODE..
COUNTRY....
PHONE NUMBER (S).

Looking forward to your soonest reply.
My very warm regards to your family,.
Sincerely
John

He's either very trusting or this isn't genuine but either way I will not just "ship" my horse somewhere.

Thanks Is this a scam buyer
 
sounds like money laundering to me! It is possible that they have "dirty" money or ill gotten gains and would be using your account to have it cleaned by the money then leaving a reputable account.

Either that or the "certified" cheque might just bounce after your horse is winging it's way over to them!
 
This is the usual email that is sent by West African fraudsters. They just substitute the word horse for car, lorry, whatever they are trying to steal from you.

This is a scam, don't waste your time with it.
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EXACTLY the same thing happened to us through ebay with a car!! Straight away I realised it was a con artist trying to money launder through my car listing (which cost us money to do) grrrrrh!
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I dropped into conversation my Dad was a copper (a slight porky pie admittedly
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), and low and behold, we never heard anything else from this person! Report them to the Police!!!
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yup its a 419... you will get sent the cheque, and it may even look like a real British cheque with someones genuine name and genuine bank detail on it.. (as they also have other scams where they contact people agreeing to purchase (goods) and in order to conclude the sale ask for your bank details to wire the funds... thats how they get hold of the account numbers and sort codes...) anyway you present the cheque to your bank.... post off your cheque for the difference, they cash the cheque in a US bank as cheques are drawn same day..... then you get a letter from your bank telling you the cheque was a forgery...... oops your down £800

This is organised International crime reported to be Nigeria's second highest source of income..... but as there is no treaty between Nigeria and the UK Interpol struggle to shut it down, its been going on for over thirty years but started with companies being faxed and letters being sent out to businesses. The internet just made it easier for them to multiply their activity.... http://home.rica.net/alphae/419coal/

Bascially: United Kingdom - Additional Country Specific Instructions - United Kingdom
Basically, the UK has decentralized 419 reporting and does not want to hear from people unless there has been a loss or a UK bank account or phone number is given by the 419ers. The complete instructions can be seen at the London Metropolitan Police website section concerning Nigerian 419 Advance Fee Fraud: http://www.met.police.uk/fraudalert/419.htm
 
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