It could not happen to a more deserving guy.....

Humph! I'm disappointed in the sentence: slightly less than Chaytor because "Morley's case was not as "sophisticated" as that of another former Labour MP, David Chaytor, and therefore, his sentence was slightly lower."

I think that 'not as sophisticated' means not nearly as 'clever' - but who would expect Morley to be clever!
 
In general I was against these politically motivated prosecutions. The expenses system was abused by all but perfectly legal in that they were all passed and accepted by the Parliamentary Civil Service - the very people who filed the charges and provided the evidence. I truly hate this kind of thing and it belongs in Totalitarian state show trials.

Personally, I don't mind one jot if a guy claims successfully for a Victorian duck house if that is shown to be a legitimate expense; however; there are limits and manufacturing an invoice is fraud in any circumstance, as is claiming reimbursement for something you didn't pay.
 
1stclassalan said:
In general I was against these politically motivated prosecutions. The expenses system was abused by all but perfectly legal in that they were all passed and accepted by the Parliamentary Civil Service - the very people who filed the charges and provided the evidence. I truly hate this kind of thing and it belongs in Totalitarian state show trials.
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How can you call it 'politically motivated' - a lib Dem and a Tory were charged as well. There is a difference between claiming for every expense you are entitled to - and lying and cheating to get expenses you are NOT entitled to. The Parliamentary Civil Servants who processed these claims assumed - obviously wrongly - that MPs were honest and wouldn't FABRICATE invoices etc to back up fraudulent claims!
 
1stclassalan said:
In general I was against these politically motivated prosecutions. The expenses system was abused by all but perfectly legal in that they were all passed and accepted by the Parliamentary Civil Service - the very people who filed the charges and provided the evidence. I truly hate this kind of thing and it belongs in Totalitarian state show trials.

Personally, I don't mind one jot if a guy claims successfully for a Victorian duck house if that is shown to be a legitimate expense; however; there are limits and manufacturing an invoice is fraud in any circumstance, as is claiming reimbursement for something you didn't pay.
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Well said.
 
JanetGeorge said:
How can you call it 'politically motivated' - a lib Dem and a Tory were charged as well. There is a difference between claiming for every expense you are entitled to - and lying and cheating to get expenses you are NOT entitled to. The Parliamentary Civil Servants who processed these claims assumed - obviously wrongly - that MPs were honest and wouldn't FABRICATE invoices etc to back up fraudulent claims!
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The original expose came out in the Daily Toryagraph, no doubt promoted by leaks from the very same Civil Servants that were telling the P.M.'s how to make their dodgy claims.

P.M.'s expenses were regarded as a perk for years - everyone knew that most of them were ficitious or exaggerated - it might not suit your perfect lifestyle but that's the way of the world.

Where would any of us be if retrospective laws were introduced by hue & cry???
 
1stclassalan said:
The original expose came out in the Daily Toryagraph, no doubt promoted by leaks from the very same Civil Servants that were telling the P.M.'s how to make their dodgy claims.

P.M.'s expenses were regarded as a perk for years - everyone knew that most of them were ficitious or exaggerated - it might not suit your perfect lifestyle but that's the way of the world.

Where would any of us be if retrospective laws were introduced by hue & cry???
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They comitted fraud they were caught and it was proved in a court of law ... they have been given a slap on the wrist, we the public are nowsomewhat reasured they are not above the law and are subject to it the same as us....
 
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