Jason Webb and a panicing Loader??

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Hello! Im new!! :D
Need some advice/opinions please. I have an angelic 15.3, 14 yr old gelding, very polite, butter wouldn't melt, the yards favourite....until you take him near a trailer! At this point he rolls his eyes in terror, grows a neck like a periscope, snorts and looks increasingly edgy until you put him safely in his stable/field. he even panics when other horses are being loaded up - in case its his turn next.
Now he wasnt always this way, have had the little tyke for a decade (!) and although he has never been a regular traveller, we have been here and there to shows. He has never really liked travelling; sweating up ALOT, neighing, banging about which made us think he may have had a bad experience in the past (came from a dealer who imported from germany).

It has just been in the last year the real trouble has started. At first he was planting at the foot of the ramp (not steep) and refusing to budge, snorting, trembling and being generally terrified. Once we coaxed him past this, he took to once in the trailer, bolting out of the front, even managing to annhialate a 6'6'' 18 stone farmer who had hold of him! If the front bar was up he refused point blank to enter.

At this point, we enlisted the help of a ''loading specialist'' a bizarre Parelli fanatic who flapped and flailed a rope in his face, so much so the clip broke, whacked him in the face and he buggered off. Poor sod. This made the situation much worse in terms of terror.

The next several weeks were spent with daily sessions with the trailer in the sandschool, practising; we could load him with the front ramp up (to prevent the bolting) but now the wily git took to flinging himself at speed in reverse, to the point of nearly turning my sister into a pancake under the ramp. We got him to the point where he would walk on happily, stand there for a while tembling and neighing but as soon as anyone tried to put the back bar/ramp up that was it, off in reverse, practically sitting on the ramp. Very dangerous - he stops at nothing!!

So.... we are now thinking of as a last resort sending him up to Jason Webb who has a good reputation. Has anyone heard of him having success with a similar problem as this??? Or any suggestions? (Please dont say try a lorry (he's no better) - we have a trailer and thats what he would travel in, so he needs to load in that) If sending him to Jason fails at least we know we have tried everything.

Sorry for the essay!!!
 
Hello!!! :)

At first I thought I probably won't be able to share any experience with you until I read the bit about the banging and sweating and neighing and him not having this problem before...

Have you changed trailer? What trailer do you have? Is it partitioned?

Only, I didn't have a problem then we heard a terrific bang once a few months ago. He'd scrabbled about in there - hoof marks all up the side!!!!! I think it was a balance issue, he slipped once and was forever trying to spread out but couldn't. Since then it was a real battle.

I wrote on here asking for advice and some people suggested taking partition out and starting from scratch you know, feed in trailer, treats, shavings on floor. It worked and we're fine now but he doesn't like the partition. This was in a 505 and mine is 15.3. I bought a full width bar for £50 on ebay and haven't looked back. He's much calmer on arrival for lessons and shows, and not at all sweaty.

Anyway, just a thought.... might not be the answer. Don't know about trainers I'm afraid.

Good luck xx
 
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Definately 100% call Jason. He will come to you. Sarah, his yard manager, is lovely too and will probably be who you talk to.
Do it - he's a brilliant horseman.
 
This may be a daft question given your username but have you had his back done? I can always tell when my mare needs doing if she sweats in the lorry. Other than that i can definitely recommend taking out the partition and have you tried some sedalin to give you an edge on the reaction times re reversing etc!
 
You can't blame Pat Parelli or his methods because of some incompetent person any more than you could blame Jason Webb if someone tried to copy his methods and completely cocked it up.
 
This may be a daft question given your username but have you had his back done? I can always tell when my mare needs doing if she sweats in the lorry. Other than that i can definitely recommend taking out the partition and have you tried some sedalin to give you an edge on the reaction times re reversing etc!

Haha! No, I'm sure its 100% psychological. No partition in the trailer!! I think the amount of sedalin I'd have to give him would just make it dangerous to travel....
 
If your in Kent then I'd give Jason a ring and see what he thinks.
Parelli is the same as any other training system, only use qualified people. So if the lady in question is on the Parelli site as a Parelli Professional then fair enough, if not then you've been taken in by a student who could have any level of experience (or not). If they are selling their services claiming to be a Parelli trainer then pass their details on to the head office, they will have a quiet chat with them.
 
Christ - I don;t think the OP wanted views and airs on Parelli!! She tried it - 'qualified' instructor or not, and it clearly didn't work for whatever reason...end of...move on...

I can't comment on Jason Webb, but I too am looking at his services for a problem horse of mine (loading!) so would be great to see anyone's views or experiences on JASON WEBB not Parelli!!!
 
Jason Webb has an excellent reputaion in Kent,and i know his yard manager Sarah Muir is great with problem loaders.You could also try Suzanne Marshall,the local natural horsmanship agent who is based at Friday Field stables.I can vouch for her as she helped us with our Warmblood,and other people.She is calm and takes time to do the groundwork first before dealing with the loading issues.Suzanne will come out to you.She has a web site so check for contact details there.
 
both jason webb and suzasnne marshall are fantastic for loaders !!

Yes you could try sedalin (or the new one on the market which is as strong as the injection if the vet came out - its fab stuff) they will be fine travelling i had to do this with a horse that fractured its leg and woudnt load
 
Jason backed one of our horses that had a few issues, and he is brilliant. We found him very easy to talk to and approachable. I've seen him in action teaching difficult horses to load, and was impressed. Would definitely recommend him.
 
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