Jesus :o

[junglediva]

just came across this on youtube of the fight between hunt supporters and sabs. Cant beleve the violence involved here. Has anybody experienced something like this before? :shocked:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd5dc5T90Vg&feature=related

 

[FestiveSpirit]

Couldnt be arsed to watch it all TBH - typical anti propaganda :crazy:

 

[Patches]

Bloody hell! I would so not want to be involved in that, either sides.

Thank heavens my recent foray into hunting is with bloodhounds and clean boot packs. I am not anti fox-hunting but I am anti that sort of violence from either side and wouldn't like to be caught up in it.

 

[skewby]

I don't think the violence was at all real. It's very odd how what they claim in the text cannot be seen in the videos. All you see is a bloodstained anti afterwards.

They really are the great unwashed. The jury is out with me on hunting, am trying it for myself. But no way am I enticed by this lot!

Do agree the huntsman is very angry! Those horses are saints too.

 

[combat_claire]

Just because you follow the clean boot doesn't mean you are necessarily free from anti-hunting activists - the local group got in a bit of a muddle and went out to protest at a meet of the Draghounds *rolls eyes*

Hunts across the South East have borne the brunt of saboteur activity for many years prior and post ban. This footage comes from the Chid & Lec hunt, who together with the Crawley & Horsham, the Old Surrey, Burstow & West Kent & the Surrey Union have been targeted despite their legal activities. In contrast the saboteur groups freely trespass over private land, will deliberately try and impede horses and hunt staff so although I don't condone violence I can see how easy it would be for tempers to become frayed.

A final thought is that on a trip to Cheshire with the college beagles we became the target of self-styled hunt monitors who followed us around the farm, taking pictures of staff and followers. Despite being politely asked to leave they continued to intimidate, it is a horrible feeling and when they looked like being on the phone for reinforcements the decision was to blow for home early. What makes these people think they have the right to act like this, on the off chance that we might have broken the law??

 

[Patches]

Oh I agree. We saw much chuntering from people in cars on Sunday. They clearly have no concept of the different types of hunt. However, if I ever came up against this sort of thing regularly, I would give up going. It would spoil all the fun for me.

As I say, I am personally not against fox hunting at all. We've chosen Vale Royal because of it's location to home and the ground they cover. I'm not into jumping walls and five bar gates etc. It's too much for my little cob (and me) to tackle.

I do, however, want to get out once or twice with either the North Shrops or the North Staffs before the season is over so that I can compare the different types of hunting.

I completely agree regarding the trespassing which is why I feel it must be nigh on impossible for the sabs to get any conviction secured.

If definitely boils down to provocation and I'm damn sure the huntsmen were provoked....time and time again too.

 

[Clodagh]

The Essex used to really cop it in the 80s. There was a day when the ALF joined up with the local sabs and several people, policemen included, ended up in hospital.

 

[Lanky Loll]

Used to hunt in the late 80's on my lead rein pony, and can remember one occaision where one of the anti's tried to lift me off my pony "you shouldn't be here little girl" so I clobbered him with my hunting stick :grin:
I was eight at the time and absolutely furious, I knew what I was doing and why I was there.

 

[Springback]

Funny you should mention that day with the Essex. I was working for the BFSS at that time as a Marshall and we call that day the Battle Of Gerard's Cross.
We were there early as usual, about ten of us, and the antis that usually followed were there as usual. We knew them well enough to exchange pleasantries and they were very trustworthy and non-violent.
It was these "regular" antis who alerted us to the influx of coaches and minibuses from all over the country. We even had some from France! One of our marshalls has acid thrown in his eye and we had to "borrow" a pint of milk to save his eyes from permanent damage.
It backfired though because Nick Herbert (Now Shadow Cabinet Minister) who was my boss on the day took the video footage I took and showed it in the lobby of the House of Commons along with a flyer which used stills from the film. I think it set the antis case back a long way.

 

[Clodagh]

Hello Springback, my OH was the terrierman, he used to do a bit of marshalling. We call it the Battle of Stagdon Cross!!

 

[Springback]

Small world!

 

[3BayGeldings]

Just because you follow the clean boot doesn't mean you are necessarily free from anti-hunting activists - the local group got in a bit of a muddle and went out to protest at a meet of the Draghounds *rolls eyes*

LOL!

 

[3BayGeldings]

And what a load of propaganda that video is.. love the bit where he goes really obviously to the camera "So, the AMBULANCE is on it way right?" - Whatever!