Jump from discovery to newcomers?

[stencilface]

How big is the jump from discovery to Newcomers? Is newcomers 1.05 - 1.10 so discovery jump off and a little higher?

I am planning on going BSJA this sunday at Richmond and I have never done a newcomers before but after coming 2nd last time in the discovery there, and having a great lesson with Joe Whitaker I am feeling pretty confident about the whole thing, which is new for me!

I have schooled him over 1.20m at home (although is done in his field, so isn't so much schooling so much as wheeeeeee!) but that was last summer (haven't got the jumps out yet this year).

I am obviously going to do the Discovery and see how that goes before deciding anything on the day, but just wondered if anyone had any thoughts/opinions

Thanks

 

[claire_p2001]

Newcomers is 110 in the first round and 120 in the jump off. If you have done quite a few Discovery jump offs you should be fine but the courses do tend to be more technical and may include water and triples etc. Good Luck if you do try i'm sure you will be fine

 

[Jul]

Heights as in claire's post above.
Have they got a 1.05? Some shows have them. If so that's quite a good in between class to try.

 

[jess_asterix]

Newcomers tend to be more technical than Discovery but if you are going DC at discovery and you have a good canter that is in a rhythm also if you are sat on something that you know has the jump it makes it easier. Just don't ride any differently just make sure you have a good canter from the start. It's not that much difference

 

[stencilface]

Eek - thanks! I will have to give it a go if the discovery all goes well. The canter is getting there I think - still need more of it, but will see what we've got on the day. They have 2 rings I think, and if they had a 1.05 I'd do that and not the Newcomers, but I want to limit myself to 2 classes really - don't think horse is mega fit yet, and would feel mean doing 3.

The technical doesn't worry me too much, or spookiness, they had a triple (1 stride, 1 stride) in their discovery there the other week, which is the first time I've done of them on this horse in a competition and he didn't care.

I will try and put my brave pants on and give it a go, will report back afterwards if I pluck up the courage!

 

[shark1]

personally apart from the height i think there is hardly any difference really.
the distances are all usually straightforward etc, everythings still built with the novice in mind and the speed is still only 325
best way is to jump a discovery so you've had a trip round the ring & fences then stick yourself early in the newcomers before you have time to freak out! it'll be fine!

 

[stencilface]

best way is to jump a discovery so you've had a trip round the ring & fences then stick yourself early in the newcomers before you have time to freak out! it'll be fine!

I think that will be the way forward if the discovery all goes well, although I've probably cursed myself now and I'll make a dogs dinner of the discovery!

 

[measles]

Agree with others that if you are going well at Disc you should be fine. Around us there are lots of 1.05 opens which make a good stepping stone but if there are none near you go for it.

Let us know how you get on and good luck!

 

[Golden_Match_II]

I made the jump pretty quickly, and found it pretty easy, but my horse is a big jumping powerhouse, and 1m10 is well within her comfort zone. So it may be different if you think you will be really pushing you horse

 

[stencilface]

He is entirely capable of the height, but isn't exactly what I'd call a 'powerhouse' although I am working on that (more of a year on year process than month on month though!). He is just naturally laid back, so he may need a little shaking up I feel!

I also don't enjoy warm ups, once the oxers in there get big (over 1m!) I don't like it one little bit! But I don't mind so much in the ring for some reason

I think I just have a mental block when it comes to doing anything bigger than discovery, as I haven't jumped higher than that since PC showjumping on my first horse.

Thanks for the luck, I'll let you know how it goes

 

[dieseldog]

The difference between Newcomers and Discovery is that at Discovery you will get a way with making mistakes - Newcomers you won't.

So if you are confident and jumping Discovery well you'll be alright.

 

[stencilface]

The last discovery I did felt very easy, so if I get that same feeling again I'll go for it. But if I do go in the newcomers, and its not going well, I'll retire, I'm not out to ruin our confidence, as I know how long it takes to have some in the first place

 

[wonkey_donkey]

Personally I think the step from Disco to Newcomers is minimal, and the most average of horses can jump Newcomer / 1.10m classes.
I believe the step up from Newcomers to Foxhunter is where it starts to sort the 'men out from the boys' and the riders start to need a good eye for a stride etc.

You go for it, I'm sure you will be fine