JUST D*MN ANNOYING-LOANERS!!

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Why is it so many people suffer bad experiences with loaners??
Last year we loaned out our veteran hanovarian mare, she has arthritic changes in her hocks but is very much in use and well.
She went out on permanent loan hundreds of miles away, to do light dressage and showing and end her days there.

Her loaner decided to send her back just as her next cortasone injections were due.
When we collected her from the transporter in scotland she was very stressed, had lost weight, several marks/scars on her coat (maybe superficial) and with her shoes barely hanging on.

This is such a sweet mare and such a lady, it has taken us days to settle her and i am so very annoyed with her loaner.
Who would not answer our calls or reply to our e-mails when we tried to find out what feed she had her on, worming, etc, what time she was being collected from the transporter or in fact if she had been picked up.

To break her journey we travelled to scotland to pick her up rather than being transported and would have not even know if she was there if it was not for being persistant with the no so co-operative transport comapny.


Sorry......rant....rant...and rant...and this is 3 days after her arriving home...good job i didnt post on saturday evening.

Just had to get it off my chest......
forgot to mention, the loaner is the secretary of a well known horse society.
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I'm so sorry for your experience but we're not all bad....honestly!! I will be a loaner again as of Friday and have happily loaned horses in the past.

How long did she have the horse?
 
She went in September last year, we loaned 4 out at the time due to illness in the family and we kept 3 at home , which was manageable.

We had signed a BHS agreement and after approx 30 enquiries we agreed to let this person have her and was confident she would be looked after. The loaner wanted to have her until her last days and we signed and agreed even about how she would be PTS when the time came.

We were not upset about her being returned at all, but we were upset about how and the condition she was returned.

yesterday she had her cortisone injections, teeth rasped and tomoz the farrier is coming, one shoe dropped off when she was being trotted out for the vet.

I know not everyone is the same, i appreciate that but im so cross at the mo.
 
Thats such a shame.

On a good note though the girl who loans my horse is a dream, she's so good with him and has even wants to keep riding him even though Im selling him - so good loanees do come up
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Reading your post is exactly why I would never ever loan one of my horses out, nor would I ever have a horse on loan. Unfortunately, I have heard far too many similar stories to yours. I am sure there are decent, caring loanees out there - but, personally I would never risk it.
 
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She went out on permanent loan hundreds of miles away

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Why?

Sorry, I find it soo hard to have any sympathy for you - although I have plenty for the mare.

Why would you send her hundred of miles away - and for her to end her days there??

Some people just baffle me.
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I'm sure that there are any bad loaners out there, but equally some good ones too, I guess its hard to distinguish the difference at the start of a loan period its only when things go wrong, do you really know.

AmyMay- I'm sure Blueberry thought that the home the mare was going to even though hundreds of miles away was to be her last and she was going to be well cared for.

Unfortunately finding a loan home nearby can be very hard to find and I'm sure Blueberry did her home work first.
I personally wouldn't loan a horse to someone that far away, but I guess honestly it would depend on personal circumstances, a horse can be mistreated when its only 50 miles up the road, but take on board that you perhaps could keep a closer eye on it.
 
I dont want sympathy
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The mare has arthritic changes and needs to be in regular work, my daughter who rode her reguarly became ill so could not ride her enough.
The lack of exercise would have affected the mares arthritis. So this was a decision made purely for her wellbeing.
The fact that the home was miles away was incidental, we thought we had found the best home for her, which we did not find locally.

Would we have been better selling her after her being with us for 8 years? Then she could well have been passed around by numpties or eventually end up at the sales? I dont think so!

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I'm at the other end of the spectrum - a loaner who has found it hard to let go.
We had a mare on loan two years ago and reluctantly let her go as she wasn't suitable for my novicey husband.
Initially her owner was going to keep her again, then changed her mind and sent her to a yard where she was used a bit for lessons - I wasn't too happy about this but the YM really loved her and she seemed to cope.
Then the owner put her in foal, which I was really pleased about, but she stayed at the same yard (it is a stud too) and they seem to have struggled with her before and since the foaling - they say she is a possessive mum (I could have told them that would happen!) and she has lost masses of weight.
First thing I said to my husband when I saw pix of her was 'can't we get her back?' but I don't think we can afford a brood mare as well as our other horse...I just feel guilty, like I've abandoned her.
 
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Would we have been better selling her after her being with us for 8 years? Then she could well have been passed around by numpties or eventually end up at the sales? I dont think so!

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No of course not. However, arthritic horses can do very well out 24/7 - with no need for a rider.

Anyway - glad she's back with you, where she can hopefully end her days happily.
 
Loaning is a real minefield. My mare is on a sort of loan/share, but in exchange for me meeting quite a lot of the costs she has stayed on the yard where I keep my other horse. (which has fab facilities and off road hacking, so not such a bad thing) That way I can keep an eye on her. I wouldn't let her go away from me and would rather not loan her out than do that. Having said all that, my loaner/sharer is very good with her - there are good people out there who would love to have your mare. You've just met a not so good one this time.
 
'No of course not. However, arthritic horses can do very well out 24/7 - with no need for a rider.'

She had just developed arthritis so the vet advised that she must be exercised on a regular basis at that time until everything was settled.

I agree if she was on maintenance that would have been fine.
 
My mare was on loan to a family - and she came back looking like a hat rack and was very unfit althoughh she wwas supposedly ridden 6 days a week and on very good grazing along with having the best food available -hmmm in fact everything that comes out of their mouth was complete dribble and lies and i will never loan out again thanks to them and they are from a well known hunting family....
 
OK, from the other perspective - we took a horse on loan last year. The horse had a suspensory ligament problem which was treated and the horse was passed fit by the vet for hacking / dressage. I have spent months getting the horse fit very slowly and carefully only for it to go lame again. The owner won't take the horse back and did in fact tell me that if I didn't want her then I should phone the ILPH or another rescue society. All she wants is the money from her loss of use claim and as far as she's concerned thats where her involvement ends. So, we're now stuck with a 17hh eating machine! Fortunately, we can put her in foal but I'd be even more angry if it had been a gelding as I feel that the owner has completely abandoned the horse with no real regard to where it ended up. So, we're not all bad but would agree that there are some out there who should be avoided.
 
I have loaned out several and loaned a couple and only once had a bad experience with a pony some many years ago loaned to a silly girl!

The dun I have now is a loaned horse, owner is fab, horse is lovely, no issues at all, dont tar us all with same brush!! I think it helps when you loan, if you loan to people who have actuallyowned their own horses in the first place!!
 
O dear, i cant imagine why they would not take their horse back.
We are the owners and are, in my opinion, ultimately responsible for our own horse.

This lady did not even give us the required notice, but that did not bother us because when it was decided that she was no longer wanted, we wanted her back asap.

We have been very unlucky, i know. This person could not have come with better references, we did everything correctly and was due to visit her this month at her loan home.

We know she was 'well used' during her stay because we were informed that not only the loaner was riding her but also her dressage instructor who was jointly competing her (not in the agreement).

The mare is very genuine schoolmistress in every sense of the word and an enjoyable ride, a horse like this can be very easily abused, if you know what i mean.
 
Sorry to hear that. I think you were just really unfortunate, but still very sad for your poor girl nevertheless. Hope she picks up soon.

I had a bad experience with the first loaners of my Sec D, but the people who have him now are perfect. Couldn't have asked for anything better. I have a hanoverian mare on loan and that's worked brilliantly as well. Maybe I've just been lucky, as I read so many scare stories?
 
There are good loaners and sharers - years ago I lent/shared my then 6yo TB mare out to/with a lady whilst I was at university...my loaner cleaned my tack, would replace anything that went missing/got broken, would groom my horse to perfection, and maintained her schooling perfectly.
I was careful to vet her first though...and she was equally careful to vet my horse first (I had to trot it up and down the road on the buckle end, to prove she wouldn't 'bolt for home'
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She phoned me regularly, or if anything unusual happened. I would happily have another sharer.
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