Just found out (projecthorses)

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amzy

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That someone down my way is buying horses from this website that are going very cheap and then selling them on a few months later, for a big profit, to unsuspecting buyers, managing to mask any behavioural problems. If this isn't enough, they have actually made them worse whilst in their care as they are very inexperienced, don't see them very often and one horse they had was on border-line for needing the ILPH.
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Some of these problems (apart from the obvious neglect case) a buyer wouldn't be aware of until they got the horse home so you can't entirely blame the buyer.
I have only just found this out after doing some investigating on the internet as the whole long story has been on my mind for some months.
 
but is there proof that these horses are not sound physically and in behaviour after they are sold. I sold a problem horse that I had got and he left me with no issues at all
 
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ive been on project horses site and they mainly seem well over priced to start with !! no room for profit !

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I've noticed that too. Can't see why anyone would choose to buy from that site unless they haven't a clue what they are doing OR they actually do find a bargain in amongst all the over priced beasties.
 
Well, there must be some bargains because one of the horses with behaviour problems was originally bought for £600 and then sold 6 months later, with the same problems, for £1200. I must agree though that lots of them are going for ridiculously high prices.
Some may say 'good for her' for making a profit but wouldn't it be better to inform buyers of potential problems? At least the people who advertise on that site seem to be honest.
 
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Well, there must be some bargains because one of the horses with behaviour problems was originally bought for £600 and then sold 6 months later, with the same problems, for £1200. I must agree though that lots of them are going for ridiculously high prices.
Some may say 'good for her' for making a profit but wouldn't it be better to inform buyers of potential problems? At least the people who advertise on that site seem to be honest.

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£600 in 6 months will not be making her any money at all!! In fact, I'd count £100/month as an overall loss
 
My Jay was on there for nothing because they "thought" he had done his suspensory, they never had him scanned, just gave him away
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Turns out he had not damaged his leg at all & i ended up with the most fantastic horse ever
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Varkie runs the site, if you want to tell he whats happening you can find her on Saddle up or IHDG.
 
Whatever people do remember the saying 'let the buyer beware' and to be honest you cant expect to get a horse without issues for £1,200 unless your lucky!
 
Surely if this person is selling a few as a business then she's then a dealer. Don't they have to go by proper rules on this - ie. if the horse isn't suitable then they have to take it back or something?
 
First of all, may I just say that I didn't mean this person is in dealing big time or even very often. She has made a profit on the horse I mentioned as she only pays field rent (approx £10 a week) and the horses are unshod, not seen by a vet or looked after properly - certainly not been rehabilitated as she is very inexperienced.
Maybe she genuinely thinks she can rehabilitate them and just sells them when it all goes wrong.
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She doesn't admit it though and so the poor horse gets sold to another unsuitable home.
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I think, in this case, it is to do with lack of funds for a 'good' horse.
 
asbo - I get around!
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Deeble - well that's a rather different story than your first post implied. But I'd still say that the facts are wrong somewhere along the line! The figures still wouldn't leave her in profit! If this is someone you know personally, has no one called the ILPH if she is so bad for her horses? Or actually had a word & told her so? Or reported her to Trading Standards?
 
Well said Varkie.
Project Horses is just a site that facilitates the sale, loan or even sometimes gifting of horses that are too much of a "project" for their current owners. Or that their current owners simply think would do well going on to be brought on by someone else. It's a great cheap advertising service to bring people and horses together.
On the prices - if the horse is too expensive then it won't sell - why have a dig about the site because of that? The sellers can sell (or not) for whatever they want. It's their problem.
Deeble - it sounds to me as if you are scaremongering. If you aren't then you should take the matter up with the relevant agencies, like Trading Standards, the RSPCA and ILPH. No advertising agency can guarantee what happens to equines once they are sold, (not even H+H, who allow adverts from some well dodgy dealers!), so why try to cause a problem for Project Horses?
 
How exactly do you mask behavioral problems?

Also, it's not up to varkie how horses are priced on there. The horses on there are 'projects' for a new owner. Not 'nutty horses with behavioral problems'

If I came across a horse for £1,200 I'd wonder why it was so cheap. I find it hard to imagine this person is making any profit at all.
 
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First of all, may I just say that I didn't mean this person is in dealing big time or even very often. She has made a profit on the horse I mentioned as she only pays field rent (approx £10 a week) and the horses are unshod, not seen by a vet or looked after properly - certainly not been rehabilitated as she is very inexperienced.

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Well, then the original owners should not have sold their horses to her. People who have genuine problem horses on project horses seem to advertise their horses their because they want to spend the time searching for the right home for their horse.

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Maybe she genuinely thinks she can rehabilitate them and just sells them when it all goes wrong.
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She doesn't admit it though and so the poor horse gets sold to another unsuitable home.
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How do you know the next home is unsuitable?

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I think, in this case, it is to do with lack of funds for a 'good' horse.

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Well then how on earth does she buy them in the first place?
 
As already said this kind of thing happens all over it doesnt matter what site a horse is advertised on, some unscropulous people will buy and sell on masking problems its an age old problem isnt it.

I think if you have real proof as said it has to be taken up with authorities closer to home.
 
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