Just got back from the hospital

Clodagh

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Having taken my mother who has got a 6 inch gash in her forearm. She was out walking her dog this morning and passed another lady with a collie. Thought nothing of it, then the other collie ran back from it's owner and jumped up at Mum badly ripping her arm. It didn't bite, and was not aggressive, just overexcited, it actually got her with it's claws, but she has bad skin due to long term steroid inhaler use.
I hope on here it is preaching to the converted, but those of you who are happy to let your dog's jump up please consider the implications if they do it to someone frail.
Also, NHS staff are brilliant, so nice and unflustered dealing with a panicked elderly lady who was in a bit of a state. Not many countries in the world where you could have the treatment mum had this morning, and the necessary follow ups, free of charge AND done with a smile.
 
Hope it heals quickly and doesn't spoil your mum's walks in future. I still spend all my time telling people not to encourage my collie to jump up, I point out that one day they will do it and she will be covered in horse ****!!
 
oh, that is rubbish-they do seem to be a breed that some can't train out of it, hope she's feeling on a more even keel now.

I have zero tolerance for it, I hate other people's dogs doing it to me. I also have a wobbly stepdaughter so all mine (well Fitz will) have been taught an auto-sit.
 
Thank you, I just checked on her and she is OK, tired and headachey. She said she will have to wear long sleeves to walk in future, but it is a bit hot for that today. Thank goodness it didn't get her face.
The lady that owns it was mortified, but it is the same owner with a new collie that knocked MIL over a couple of years ago. I will report her if it happens again, if Mum was so inclined the dog could be in real trouble I think, if she said she felt scared and threatened by it.
 
Ouch, your poor mum, horrid accident. Dog should be on a lead if it can't be trusted to behave nicely with strangers (this includes dog and people and doesn't just mean not being nasty)
 
Thank you. My OH went and had a word with the lady and hopefully dog will not do it again. In a quiet way he can be quite forceful.
 
Best wishes to your mum for a good recovery. Does she need any follow up appointments, in case of infection or an ulcer forming?
 
Your poor mum. I hope she recovers quickly - and hopefully it will be a short, sharp lesson that the dog owner won't forget. I'd be mortified if my dog did something like that.
 
Oh dear. Some people really have no clue. I have just taken my mother home after a similar incident happened to her yesterday. She's 80, walks 2 or 3 miles a day still with her retriever. But she has paper thin skin and yesterday a collie jumped up at her and its claws made a real mess of her wrist and finger. We've been here before and it inevitably ends up with a hospital visit because her skin just doesn't heal anymore.

Hope your mum is soon on the mend.
 
TheOldTrout said:
Best wishes to your mum for a good recovery. Does she need any follow up appointments, in case of infection or an ulcer forming?
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I thought she would need to go back to the hospital, but although you can see the tendons they are all working OK so it is just local practice nurse for dressing changes. She has mega ABs though, they gave her the 'dog bite' strength. It is a worry as it didn't bleed much in relation to the size of the cut, so in my limited knowledge that means it won't heal quickly either. They didn't stitch it, just strip things.
 
Bustermartin said:
Oh dear. Some people really have no clue. I have just taken my mother home after a similar incident happened to her yesterday. She's 80, walks 2 or 3 miles a day still with her retriever. But she has paper thin skin and yesterday a collie jumped up at her and its claws made a real mess of her wrist and finger. We've been here before and it inevitably ends up with a hospital visit because her skin just doesn't heal anymore.

Hope your mum is soon on the mend.
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Your poor mum, it is no fun when being a bit older means you can't do (or at least need to be careful to do) what you love doing.
 
Clodagh said:
Thank you, I just checked on her and she is OK, tired and headachey. She said she will have to wear long sleeves to walk in future, but it is a bit hot for that today. Thank goodness it didn't get her face.
The lady that owns it was mortified, but it is the same owner with a new collie that knocked MIL over a couple of years ago. I will report her if it happens again, if Mum was so inclined the dog could be in real trouble I think, if she said she felt scared and threatened by it.
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I'd seriously consider reporting her anyway.
Her dog previously knocked over MIL, so it has already 'happened again'; how many chances do she and her dogs deserve?
 
Clodagh said:
I thought she would need to go back to the hospital, but although you can see the tendons they are all working OK so it is just local practice nurse for dressing changes. She has mega ABs though, they gave her the 'dog bite' strength. It is a worry as it didn't bleed much in relation to the size of the cut, so in my limited knowledge that means it won't heal quickly either. They didn't stitch it, just strip things.
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Healing wise it should heal but may take a little longer.
They won't have stiched because if the skin is that thin the stiches just tear through and make the damage even worse so steri strips are a better option as they will keep the wound closed without damaging the skin
 
mynutmeg said:
Healing wise it should heal but may take a little longer.
They won't have stiched because if the skin is that thin the stiches just tear through and make the damage even worse so steri strips are a better option as they will keep the wound closed without damaging the skin
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Thank you, I thought that might be the case. In fact, I thought they might leave it open but the nurse was great and spent ages piecing it together.
 
I hope she heals up very soon. That owner needs a wake up call. I've never yet met a collie that jumped at me, are they known for it?
 
I have never owned a collie, always had labs. Our present lab knows not to jump at me or pull toys when I play with him. My grandson plays roughly with him and he does jump at him. Dogs that jump are a pain anyway, with muddy feet and peoples legs all scratched, it is not a good trait.
I do hope both the ladies make a full recovery.
 
Sorry to read this Clodagh, hope she is feeling a little better today. Why some owners are not more vigilant and call their dogs in if they are likely to jump up, seems extraordinary.
 
Your poor mum, what a fright. I hope she heals up quickly. Both my aged parents got paper thin skin as they aged, too.

Good on your OH for going round for a 'word' with the numpty owner. I would still follow it up by reporting the dog, she needs to have the riot act read to her by an official, the dog should never be off lead in public if it's going to jump up at random strangers.
 
I've known a few-work colleague often gets badly scratched by her young BC jumping up, ex yard sharer had two that would do it and despite repeated requests she continued to let them do it to my stepdaughter who has to wear leg braces. There's another at work that does it but then there's other dogs that do it at work too-mostly smaller dogs. I've had collies that dont do it but then I teach it very early on (its not rocket science). I think collies like to communicate in a certain way if you like-I wasnt condemning the breed, just an observation that the ones I know do it when off lead.
 
Aled isn't a jumper as such. At home if people visit he can get over excited and will run round and round in circles on the spot. Out on walks, whether on lead or off, he practically ignores everyone.
 
MotherOfChickens said:
I wasnt condemning the breed, just an observation that the ones I know do it when off lead.
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Didn't think you were. When mum and I were chatting yesterday she said what is so sad about all these out of control collies is they are actually very easy dogs to train. They just don't cope with insufficient stimulation and training very well.
 
Clodagh said:
Didn't think you were. When mum and I were chatting yesterday she said what is so sad about all these out of control collies is they are actually very easy dogs to train. They just don't cope with insufficient stimulation and training very well.
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well, thing is ex yard sharer was convinced her dogs were well trained lol! and work colleagues dog knows lots of tricks but has no manners.
 
Collies arent renowned for jumping..nipping maybe!lol

Junping up is an a excitment issue usually and a lack of manners.... but its a fault that should really be trained out of all dogs esp the larger ones!lol if I had to chose a main culprit it would be teenage labs!

I've failed at it personally though! My terrier mix still had a nasty habit of paws up on people to say hi! Constantly reinforced by people giving her a pet and attention when she did it! Apparently its cute...I wasnt a fan when it involved.especially muddy paws on clean clothes and mortifying episodes on walks!
Most dogs learn pretty quickly who will and will not tolerate this behaviour and when actions have consequence(no attention and a sharp turn and sit command to refocus her on something I wanted her to do helped helped,though only the nononesence tone of voice worked to break through to her nutty little skull)...god I desperately miss that dog!
They gradually stop with consistency ...apparently....anyone else have better tips?

Hope your mums feeling a bit better op.that sounds like a nasty wound!
 
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