Just wondering......

[PaddyMonty]

A few questions I ponder when I should be working....

1) Why do people get taught THE jumping position when its a fluid movement not a fixed position?

2) Why do those that support hunting always assume those that dont are ignorant of the mechanics?

3) Why do folks on tree hugging horse sites condem the use of physical pain in training horses yet respond with 'You're doing brillantly' to pictures of jumping where the rider is so obviously hanging on to the poor horses mouth for balance?

4) Why do NON-eventing folk feel they have a right to demand that XC courses are made safer very time a death occurs?

5) Why am I such a grumpy old bugger today?

 

[Weezy]

I have to agree with the fact that all of your questions are now making me ponder too!

 

[Chex]

What does a "tree-hugger", ie an environmentalist, have to do with horses? Last time I checked conservation is VERY different from natural horsemanship (the nearest I can think of)

 

[lillie07]

Good questions

Can't answer any but have certainly got me thinking. I can also see this thread causing a debate

 

[Christmas_Kate]

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Good questions

Can't answer any but have certainly got me thinking. I can also see this thread causing a debate

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me too

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[Breezesbenefactor]

Don't know, something to do with living in Northamptonshire I guess - use to make me grumpy

 

[Christmas_Kate]

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Don't know, something to do with living in Northamptonshire I guess - use to make me grumpy

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I live in the Leics/ Northants border, I'm deffo not grumpy!! Must be the Leics side of it that brings a smile to my face....

 

[PaddyMonty]

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Don't know, something to do with living in Northamptonshire I guess - use to make me grumpy

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Great, thats one question answered

and the rest of them?

 

[Agent XXX999]

1) Why do people get taught THE jumping position when its a fluid movement not a fixed position?

Becasue you get taught the position that you have to achieve momentarily. The fluidity comes from getting it and sitting up after.

2) Why do those that support hunting always assume those that dont are ignorant of the mechanics?

Because, mostly, they tend to be. Informed opinions are best - though lots of antis do not know the mechanics and are still anti becasue of misinformation - ie: thinking hunting should be band but not realising the affect it will have on unemployment, and the animals concerned (basically not seeing the bigger pictue)

3) Why do folks on tree hugging horse sites condem the use of physical pain in training horses yet respond with 'You're doing brillantly' to pictures of jumping where the rider is so obviously hanging on to the poor horses mouth for balance?

Because if you get set on something (eg parelli etc) it is usually, again, out of naievity (which I cant spell!) More experienced horse people tend to see the bigger picture - that all things are good in moderation and lessons can be learnt. I tend to find that people who are extreme in 'tree hugging opinions' tend not to be very much good at anything else (hence they specialise in something not alot of people know about!) Therefore....they prob cant see the mouth hanging!

4) Why do NON-eventing folk feel they have a right to demand that XC courses are made safer very time a death occurs?

See above. Though they may have a valid point. It is only a matter of time before tradgedy strikes and someone succeeds at getting an event cancelled due to legal wrangling.

5) Why am I such a grumpy old bugger today?

Hormones? I dont know. I am always an opinionated old bugger!

 

[PaddyMonty]

Thankyou FF, interesting points. Just to pick up on one of them....

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1) Why do people get taught THE jumping position when its a fluid movement not a fixed position?

Becasue you get taught the position that you have to achieve momentarily. The fluidity comes from getting it and sitting up after.


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Surely though the main reasons for changing position over a jump are a) to absorb the acceleration of the horse jumping and b) to remain in balance. If this is the case (not saying it is) then the amount of change is dictated by the height a horse jumps (not height of fence) and therefore there can only ever be one height at which THE positioin will work effectively?

 

[Agent XXX999]

Yes agreed for the reasons for changing position are as you said. However - you are taught a position that aids all of this. As we are talking about teaching a jump position I assumed you were reffering to novice people learning to ride.

I think if you didnt teach the basic position they would come unstuck and get thrown out of the saddle.

Obviously with more advanced jumping the rider is more experienced and therefore adjusts the position to suit the need of the horse/course.