kicking up sand with hinds only?

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I've noticed a couple horses for sale in the videos they seem to kick up the surface with just their hind legs. (I kmow it varies depending on surface but just as a guide)Having had so so much bad luck with psd and other injuries I'm terrified of buying a lame horse. Even 5 stage vettings didn't pick up things

So who has had say an 8 yr old that kicks up sand with just hinds and is still sound 2 years later
 
This is the real value of being able to see videos of horses for sale. I wouldn't go to view the horse
 
Thanks. That's why I haven't been. But starting to think I was paranoid. As today I've watch a lot of bs and so many of them too
 
For me it would depend at what point in the movement the sand moves. If its as the hoof is leaving the ground, then that could just be that the surface is dry/a bit fly away. However, any sign of toe dragging or double placing of the hoof would def put me off. I have a friend who has "hock phobia" and got her last purchase xrayed as part of the vetting. Maybe a way for you to get some comfort.
 
Toe dragging can just simply be lack of fitness and muscle in young horses, but also could be signs of hock or stifle issue, possible signs of wobblers. I would avoid ! Having said that I had a young horse who toe dragged and improved with correct trimming and lots of polework, but it's not something you want to have to bother with tbh.
 
I would also say sometimes it can be due to the horse not working through correctly from behind. My horse drags his hind toes on concrete/tarmac when trotting on the roads as he has spavin and also he also does so when warming up whilst schooling. I assume this is due to lack of muscle tone as he was treated upon diagnosis.

However when ridden actively forwards and working from behind the dragging is minimum and quite often dissapears altogether.
 
I know where you are coming from, it is a big step buying a horse and there is so much that can be missed on a vetting. :( We've insured our new guy for LOU for the first year, might be an idea for you to help with peace of mind? And as others have suggested you can get X-rays too. I would also advise being present for the vetting and airing any concerns with the vet. And, in fact, if you are buying privately, ask if you can speak to their vet. If they say no, run a mile!

As for the toe dragging, it can be weakness, or laziness/not engaging the hinds! My Pip used to, and doesn't now he is stronger and gets his butt in gear a little more. To be honest though I doubt he would pass a vetting, he has a lot of old injuries from racing, yet he is a very happy horse and leads an active, competitive life! So even if something does get thrown up a year or two down the line, it isn't necessarily the end of the world, and lots of issues can be improved with physio.
 
For me it would depend at what point in the movement the sand moves. If its as the hoof is leaving the ground, then that could just be that the surface is dry/a bit fly away. However, any sign of toe dragging or double placing of the hoof would def put me off. I have a friend who has "hock phobia" and got her last purchase xrayed as part of the vetting. Maybe a way for you to get some comfort.


my phobia is suspensories, so xrays won't help

I know where you are coming from, it is a big step buying a horse and there is so much that can be missed on a vetting. :( We've insured our new guy for LOU for the first year, might be an idea for you to help with peace of mind? And as others have suggested you can get X-rays too. I would also advise being present for the vetting and airing any concerns with the vet. And, in fact, if you are buying privately, ask if you can speak to their vet. If they say no, run a mile!

As for the toe dragging, it can be weakness, or laziness/not engaging the hinds! My Pip used to, and doesn't now he is stronger and gets his butt in gear a little more. To be honest though I doubt he would pass a vetting, he has a lot of old injuries from racing, yet he is a very happy horse and leads an active, competitive life! So even if something does get thrown up a year or two down the line, it isn't necessarily the end of the world, and lots of issues can be improved with physio.

Hmm I wish it were even that simple. I had suspicions with fi's RH and told vet. He said I was paranoid. I wasn't !

Also myself and friend have 2 vets, the local one for injections and another for more serious things

I just feel so deflated atm. Seen 15 horses and the only one I would like to buy is too green for me (I'm getting on now)
 
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