BIFF
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DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO USE AND FIT A KINETON NOSEBAND? I UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS USUAL TO ONLY USE A SNAFFLE WITH THEM HOWEVER I THOUGHT I SAW MARY KING USE ONE WITH A PELHAM AM I RIGHT?
KINETON NOSEBANDS
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Haniki
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I've got a kineton noseband although I don't use it. As far as I know regarding fitting it, the noseband needs to be level with the bit and the curved pieces need to be up against the bit. Like you I just presumed it to be used with a snaffle.
machannah
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my friend used to have one with a pelham, for her very very strong horse. Agree with the fitting as described above, i am sure if you check the net/some books you will see a picture
Flibble
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I dont know about using one with a Pelham but what I do know is that a friend of mine had a horse on loan that jumped like a stag and would kick your head off given half a chance (I still have a dent in my thigh from putting his back boots on for her at a Hunter Trial.
His owner rode him in a very sharp thin metal Pelham and could not hold him. He used to cut his mouth to pieces. My friend put him in a Rubber Snaffle with a Kineton Noseband and had a whale of a time X/C and he never cut his mouth again.
He was still a right sod to handle though!
His owner rode him in a very sharp thin metal Pelham and could not hold him. He used to cut his mouth to pieces. My friend put him in a Rubber Snaffle with a Kineton Noseband and had a whale of a time X/C and he never cut his mouth again.
He was still a right sod to handle though!
flowerlady
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The Kineton or Puckle noseband is a severe noseband. Metal loops pass under the bit so that when contact is taken up, strong pressure is brought to bear on both the nose and the bit, encouraging the horse to lower his head. As with the dropped noseband, take care not to fit it too low.
Is your horse that strong or are you wanting him to lower his head?
Is your horse that strong or are you wanting him to lower his head?
rara007
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Opinions are like bum holes, everyone has one.
Mary King is a massive fan of combination nosebands which can be pretty much used with anything. They can look quite similar. She currently rides Call Again Cavalier in one with an American Gag.
I have never seen her ride with a pelham and Kineton together.
I have never seen her ride with a pelham and Kineton together.
flyingfeet
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I disagree that they are strong as it actually reduces the pressure on the bar of the mouth and transfers it to the nose.
They are milder than a myler combination or hackamore as there is no leverage. They are often in fact used with continental gags to stop the mouth from ripping in strong horses.
With a kineton you need to check you have enough clearance on your bit for it. You will need a least a little fingers width either side and possible more for the horse with more skin.
Then they should be set up so they are were a properly fitted drop noseband so be, so well above the nose to clear the softer boney area where the bone is thin and the airway would be obstructed. The kineton should not work until you take a strong pull so set it up on the nose this way, or a little tighter if you are protecting the mouth.
They are milder than a myler combination or hackamore as there is no leverage. They are often in fact used with continental gags to stop the mouth from ripping in strong horses.
With a kineton you need to check you have enough clearance on your bit for it. You will need a least a little fingers width either side and possible more for the horse with more skin.
Then they should be set up so they are were a properly fitted drop noseband so be, so well above the nose to clear the softer boney area where the bone is thin and the airway would be obstructed. The kineton should not work until you take a strong pull so set it up on the nose this way, or a little tighter if you are protecting the mouth.