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Emilieu

Emilieu

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Just got a text from my YO telling me I need to be off the yard today. Gave them my notice last week and moving at the weekend. Another girl from the yard decided to move too - she'd been wanting to move for ages but hadn't found the courage to go. Now they are accusing me of going around the yard trying to steal their custom - all I did was tell people who asked that there were other boxes available. Really really didn't want to leave on bad terms and now will have no choice, sat here at my desk at work shaking and feeling like i'm going to burst into tears, just had to get it off my chest :(
No idea how I am supposed to move him with so little notice, I won't be able to hack him because it'll be dark by the time i get there and the trailer is booked for Saturday.
 
Can you not explain that you are not stealing her business as you arent moving to the same place! you were actually trying to do her a favour by letting people know there was a free stable. Ring her as people can be brave over text but its different when speaking on the phone. Tell her youll be gone Sat morning as arranged. Surely she has to give you more notice than a day? What does your contract say?
 
Moon said:
Can you not explain that you are not stealing her business as you arent moving to the same place! you were actually trying to do her a favour by letting people know there was a free stable. Ring her as people can be brave over text but its different when speaking on the phone. Tell her youll be gone Sat morning as arranged. Surely she has to give you more notice than a day? What does your contract say?
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Exactly my thoughts - contract?
 
That seems completely unreasonable as you have already arranged to go on Saturday - it's not like you have messed the YO about.
As an earlier poster said, I would ring her as people are definitely not as "brave" on the phone as they are by text. I would try to stay calm and polite but explain that it is completely impossible to achieve the move today and ask her what her suggestions are.
 
When have you paid until and what does your contract say -if you have one ?

We're you telling people other boxes on your new yard or current yard.

If new yard I can see her frustration but in the horsey world I think people are always looking to see if they can get a better yard for many reasons.

Also is your horse full or DIY , if full I would maybe suggest doing your horse yourself or keeping a good eye on it to ensure it's being cared for as normal. If they are that acting in this manner it would make me worry about my horses care.
 
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Stand your ground and tell her very politely that you will be staying until Saturday as per your agreement. I think most YO would be hard pushed to really mistreat a horse on their land in order to get back at the owner so unless this is likely to happen I wouldn't react at all other than a polite explanation of your firm weekend moving plans.

Stupid woman, why do peope have to be so childish?

Hugs.
 
How horrid :( And to tell you by text!!! What a coward!!! So what if you told other people there were boxes available at your new yard - does not give her the right to throw a strop and if they are asking about other yards perhaps she should take note and ask herself what that says about her business. Her actions are unacceptable and show what type of person she is. Go ask your boss for the rest of the day off for a family emergency and speak to your new yard, explain the situation and ask them if they can cater for you a few days early.
 
I'd get out early or get someone you trust to move him.

I'd rather leave it to someone else I trusted than leave him on site somewhere I didn't trust them.

Horrible situation.
 
Try not to be too upset, I don't think she can evict you just like that. Maybe you could try a bit of charm offensive and say you are awfully sorry if she thinks you were trying to encourage others to move, and that you were moving for purely practical reasons such as it is more conveniently located for work or you need their facilities, unless you had already made it known its something else of course. Then politely tell her that you have arranged to leave on Saturday and she would really need to give a week's notice otherwise as hopefully you will have a contract to back you up!
 
Thank you all.

I can't leave work because I am a teacher and one of my colleagues is already absent so I need to cover his classes!
He is DIY anyway so no one should be touching him but me - i'm pretty sure she wouldn't stoop to doing anything to hurt him. Will take my saddle etc home tonight tho because i'm not so sure about that.
I'm paid up to Saturday plus a month's deposit which I never expected to get back so not worrying about that.
We have no contract as such just a list of rules - all for us tho so nothing about her having to give us notice or anything.

I have replied to her text saying that I have loved the yard and that it was never my intention to leave on bad terms. I have told her that I never at any point asked anyone to leave - and I include in that the girl who has now decided to move her horse as well - and that I simply repsonded to their questions about my new yard.

No-one has yet managed to leave the yard without drama and bad feeling - looks like I am not going to be the one to break the trend :(

Felt so guilty leaving anyway and now just feel horrible. Thanks again for all your words of wisdom, they have really helped xx
 
If your DIY and paid a deposit which you will lose then I would take everything else this eve and leave the basics there until you move on sat.

Sounds like the minute someone hands their notice in yo gets funny.
 
I am sorry that you have this additional stress when having to move a horse is bad enough anyway.

It is so stupid of some YOs to be angry about customers leaving;they don't do themselves or their reputations any favours.

I hope you can resolve this quarrel.
 
Hope the YO cools down, she must be well aware that you can't just move and is therefore being gratuitously nasty. What is it with some YOs, they are so unprofessional.
 
If she has taken your money until Saturday then she has no legal right to tell you to leave immediately. If she insists then she should pay you back your money for the days as well as your deposit.

Seems very petty and unbusiness like.
 
I agree with billie1007
Take all your things home tonight, only leave essentials there, and stick to your original plan to move Saturday. YO is being totally unreasonable. Don't let them bully you.
If you make a mad dash to move your horse early, it may make him harder to settle at the new yard as he may well pick up on your anxiety.
Stick to your plan, and move Saturday, calmly, with your head held high, you've done nothing wrong.
 
"stealing her custom" - as if the other people aren't capable of deciding for themselves which yard they want to be on! So childish. Why are so many yard owners like this?

Why do you not expect to get the months deposit back, have you done something wrong or damaged something? No way I'd put up with that if you haven't.
 
Sugar_and_Spice said:
"stealing her custom" - as if the other people aren't capable of deciding for themselves which yard they want to be on! So childish. Why are so many yard owners like this?

Why do you not expect to get the months deposit back, have you done something wrong or damaged something? No way I'd put up with that if you haven't.
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Neither of the people I allegedly asked to leave are leaving anyway so I don't really understand her point. I know they are stressed out - as quite a few liveries have left (nothing to do with me! All going to different yards for all different reasons but mostly because of the lack of turnout on current yard in the winter) and the new ones who were supposed to be coming haven't. I feel awful leaving them when I know things are hard but i need to do what suits my horse and new yard is just ideal for us.

I don't expect to get the money back because no-one ever has. I'd be far too scared to ask for it in all honesty. I expect that in her eyes I have now done something wrong so that will be the excuse. Plus I only gave a week's notice, I don't know if I was expected to give a month's since that was how much deposit i paid.
 
hairycob said:
Shame you have already replied. I would have been tempted to delete it & say "what text, I never received a text"
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Ha ha - oh i wish so much I had done that! I was too emotional to think that smartly!

Jennygrace - I can go to my new yard any time, I arranged iot for the weekend so as to give them a full week's notice and so I could spent a few days with Deano making sure he was settling.
 
hopefully you will have a contract signed by both parties at your new place. My contract outlines all to finner details of notice, deposits ect so no confusion.
 
if you paid a months deposit then it doesnt matter if you only gave a weeks notice.

i was asked to leave immediately when i handed in my notice a few years ago, she actually made me leave that night in the dark. had to walk with horse down a main road (only half a mile down to new yard where i also worked ) with hubby behind me with hazard lights on. very scary and it was the one and only time my horse had ever bitten me :( . some people are just horrid. hopefully she/he will reply to your text and allow you the decency of leaving at the wknd, if not then like you said you could always hack . hope you get till the wknd x
 
Some yard owners act as though they are being divorced instead of a livery just leaving.

Enjoy your new yard and invite your old liveries round so they can see how wonderful it is. (bad me !:D)
 
Emilieu said:
Plus I only gave a week's notice, I don't know if I was expected to give a month's since that was how much deposit i paid.
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Notice is irrelevant.
You should be allowed to stay the full paid week and the month deposit serves as months notice. She is still getting the payment regardless of horse being on site.

Pan
 
Foxhunter49 said:
If she has taken your money until Saturday then she has no legal right to tell you to leave immediately. If she insists then she should pay you back your money for the days as well as your deposit.

Seems very petty and unbusiness like.
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This.^

Thats awful. For someone to make you leave with no notice they would have to be pretty childish and nasty - I would only do that if someone was hurting the horses or something major, and even then I would feel bad.

I would tell her that you had arranged with herself, the new yard, and the transporter to move on Saturday, which is only a couple of days away. If she really thinks that you have done something so bad that she would throw your horse out into the street, tell her she will have to arrange transport and pay for the extra livery at the new stables or you will be looking into legal action.

Its no wonder she can't keep liveries - she sounds awful. I'm usually the first one to defend livery yards, but this give them all a bad name and is the reason why people decide to do moonlight flits and mess good yards around.

I would also show her this thread once you've gone!
 
Alfiesmum that sounds truly terrifying :(
She has replied saying they have enough on their plate and that this has been a real kick in the teeth. I have to speak to her husband tonight. I will explain and see what he says - I have no classes tomorrow afternoon so if need be can leave early and hack him over to the new yard. Not ideal but nothing in the whole situation is ideal.

I know that I am entitled to the deposit back in my heart. But I really hate confrontation and can't face arguing about it with them. No contract and no records means that I haven't a leg to stand on so happy just to let it go and will be a bit smarter in the future when it comes to having everything recorded.
 
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