LACS drop IoW charges

[Eagle_day]

PRESS RELEASE

LEAGUE AGAINST CRUEL SPORTS

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For immediate release
9 APRIL 2009

HUNTING PROSECUTION DROPPED

"This emphatically does not indicate an end to prosecutions under the Act"

John Cooper, Barrister

The League Against Cruel Sports has confirmed it will be dropping the prosecution against Simon (sic) Trousdale, Liam Thom, Jamie Butcher and Malcolm Purcell from the Isle of Wight.
After careful consideration the League's legal experts have advised that although the evidence had originally been of sufficient quality and quantity, this was no longer the case following the recent High Court judgment (sic). The ruling introduced a new criteria (sic) in presenting evidence which did not exist when this particular case was brought. The League felt that it would be wrong to pursue a prosecution where the defendants would be disadvantaged by the new criteria.
The League is continuing to work with the CPS and the police to ensure illegal hunters are brought to justice and has this week handed evidence on a new case to Devon and Cornwall police. The League's focus remains on ensuring the Hunting Act is enforced effectively and it has recently employed a retired police officer to ensure its evidence gathering is of high quality.
League Chief Executive Douglas Batchelor said: "In any prosecution we seek the best possible legal advice and on this occasion it was felt that progressing with the case may not produce the end result we would hope for. We are grateful to the High Court for the recent clarity they have provided on the Act, and we are working hard to ensure our evidence meets the CPS standards.
John Cooper, barrister and Chairman of the League Against Cruel Sports said: "This decision was not taken lightly but emphatically does not indicate an end to prosecutions under the Act. Three quarters of the British public support the hunting ban and we will continue to work hard to protect wildlife from criminals who get a perverse pleasure from cruelty.

 

[zigzagzig]

Liam Thom: homunculus, in every sense.

 

[Eagle_day]

Really? Amazing then that he and the other three gave LACS such a thrashing.

And John Cooper - he isn't exactly Judge John Deed, is he?

 

[zigzagzig]

I suppose the ultimate triumph of the Isle of Wight hunt is that they can remind us that it was their hunt which introduced foxes to the island in the first place. They shipped the foxes in with the sole aim of hunting and killing them. So much for Giles' brainwashed lectures on hunting and biodiversity...

 

[Hebegebe]

I suppose the ultimate triumph of the Isle of Wight hunt is that they can remind us that it was their hunt which introduced foxes to the island in the first place. The shipped the foxes in with the sole aim of hunting and killing them. So much for Giles' brainwashed lectures on hunting and biodiversity...

I like foxes. It's good to see them on the island.

 

[zigzagzig]

I hear there are loads of foxes now around Chernobyl. Why not give them a visit (though I advise you to wear lead undies if you do)?

 

[Hebegebe]

It's an interesting point.

Our local beagle pack has imported thousands of hares to this part of Devon from Hampshire. Hunts and other country sports people are responsible for a large amount of countryside management and habitat creation benefiting their quarry species.

Personally I have a lot more respect for such action that actually benefits our wildlife enormously than snidey idiots making posts about chimps on internet forums.

 

[zigzagzig]

Don't get too grumpy: at least you have the satisfaction of knowing that every time you shoo away deer from your flower bed you're helping the biodiversity of the species!

 

[Hebegebe]

There's no such thing as bio diversity of a species.

Are you thick?

 

[zigzagzig]

Apparently you can get quite cheap flights to the Ukraine if you fancy an interesting wildlife safari.

 

[wurzel]

Apparently you can get quite cheap flights to the Ukraine if you fancy an interesting wildlife safari.

Can you?

Who with?

I like Ukrainian girls, some of the most beautiful in the world in my humble opinion.

They kind of bring out the inner chimp in me.

 

[Hebegebe]

lol it is so funny how little you actually understanbd

and nice to see you are still having great days iut Tim. The TSH are going great guns too. Nice to see Donald is in the clear now

 

[zigzagzig]

Giles, don't let these antis get the better of you. Just remind them that from time immemorial man has been a shooer-gatherer. Indeed, the earliest known cave paintings show our ancestors shooing away deer!

 

[Hebegebe]

They aren't shooing them honey bunny they are hunting them

Glad you find it funny though LOL!

 

[Bunce]

The problem with the law has been that we have had to prove that the hunters are actually hunting a wild mammal. Our amendment removes this requirement. All that has to be shown is that a fox has been chased by the dogs. It also specifically targets hunts to remove the objection that other people whose dogs chase wildlife would be criminalised.

 

[JanetGeorge]

It also specifically targets hunts to remove the objection that other people whose dogs chase wildlife would be criminalised.

Ah - so I can hunt foxes to my heart's content with my Foxhound x Lab, my Springer and my Yorkie x Jack Russell as long as I'm not on a horse and wearing a red coat. That rather PROVES that welfare is NOT the primary object!

 

[joe_carby]

Our amendment removes this requirement. All that has to be shown is that a fox has been chased by the dogs.

intentionally chased BIG DIFFERENCE.

sometimes hounds just dont listen what can we do

 

[Eagle_day]

The problem with the law ....

It's your law, you wrote it - live with the consequences.

 

[Bunce]

Our amendment removes this requirement. All that has to be shown is that a fox has been chased by the dogs.

intentionally chased BIG DIFFERENCE.

sometimes hounds just dont listen what can we do

Well shortly we will be able to prosecute you without intentional chasing being proved. This amendment has massive and wholesale support in parliament.

Face facts the game is up.

You should not be allowed to take hounds into areas where wild mammals might be present.

 

[joe_carby]

[/quote]Well shortly we will be able to prosecute you without intentional chasing being proved. This amendment has massive and wholesale support in parliament.

Face facts the game is up.
[/quote]

face facts there wont be a ban soon our game is just starting and you have just fallen at the 1st hurdle

you got your wishes and screwed them up. now lets get back to what should never have been banned

 

[Eagle_day]

"Well shortly we will be able to prosecute you without intentional chasing being proved. This amendment has massive and wholesale support in parliament.

Face facts the game is up.

You should not be allowed to take hounds into areas where wild mammals might be present."

We can certainly exercise our hounds anywhere where we are allowed to go - whether or not wild, feral or tame, mammals might be present.

But Bunce, do you have any sort of grasp on reality? Hundreds of thousands of people are losing their jobs in the worst recession since the 1930s. You have no support in Parliament - any politician seeking to amend the Hunting Act in such desperate times will be laughed out of office.

 

[wurzel]

Our amendment removes this requirement. All that has to be shown is that a fox has been chased by the dogs.

intentionally chased BIG DIFFERENCE.

sometimes hounds just dont listen what can we do

Well shortly we will be able to prosecute you without intentional chasing being proved. This amendment has massive and wholesale support in parliament.

Face facts the game is up.

You should not be allowed to take hounds into areas where wild mammals might be present.

Can I take my sheep dogs into areas where wild mammals may be present?

Have you ever been far from Old Compton Street?

 

[Scratchline]

[/quote]Ah - so I can hunt foxes to my heart's content with my Foxhound x Lab, my Springer and my Yorkie x Jack Russell as long as I'm not on a horse and wearing a red coat. That rather PROVES that welfare is NOT the primary object! [/quote]

And you will be rightly arrested for breaking the law )

 

[Scratchline]

[/quote]sometimes hounds just dont listen what can we do [/quote]

On private land maybe monitors could be armed and shoot the hounds as a farmer has the right to if a dog is worrying his/her livestock. Lets have the same rules for the fox if you are not prepared to control your dogs when out in the coutryside?

If in a public place, road land etc why not prosecute you under the dangerous dogs act. Your dogs are clearly IMO dangerously out of control in a public place by chasing other animals and trying to kill them. The Dangerous Dogs Act covers this irresponsibilty and saying my dog would listen will not be the best of defences!

Hope that helps )

 

[Scratchline]

face facts there wont be a ban soon our game is just starting and you have just fallen at the 1st hurdle

you got your wishes and screwed them up. now lets get back to what should never have been banned

Do you actually live in this country? Sorry to ask but if you actually believe any government would dare to once more allow foxes to be chased then ripped apart in our countryside you are deluded. Pre ban I disliked it but never got that involved. However if you think the people in this country, many like me will allow a banned bloodsport to be legalised to suit the wishes of a handfull of uncaring killers then you have a huge shock coming your way.

Never, no way, no how will you ever be allowed to slaughter in that way in Britain again.

 

[Scratchline]

Can I take my sheep dogs into areas where wild mammals may be present?

They laughed and were sarcastic as the last law was proposed. Then cried and got all angry very soon after )

 

[joe_carby]

im obviously seriously deluded then. you stop hunting yet halal meat is still allowed. i form of animal slaughtering that involves slitting a fully concious animals throat tying chains round its back legs and hanging it upside down to bleed to death.

why dont you stop that IMO that is B@~#dy cruel but its not stopped for fear of being accused of racism.

we put an end to our own tradition and allow imigrants to carry on there far worse blood thirsty actions. i walk round what was my local town and tbh it feels like i dont live in this country no.

 

[Scratchline]

I do not agree with halal meat production either although I am also obviously less racist than yourself. I will speak out against that cruelty on a relevant thread.
"I", didnt stop hunting and I cannot control other cruelty but I certainly have the right to speak out against practices I believe cruel and wrong.
Sadly suggesting one cruelty be allowed because another isnt yet banned isnt the best of arguements.

 

[Hebegebe]

sometimes hounds just dont listen what can we do [/quote]

On private land maybe monitors could be armed and shoot the hounds as a farmer has the right to if a dog is worrying his/her livestock. Lets have the same rules for the fox if you are not prepared to control your dogs when out in the coutryside?

If in a public place, road land etc why not prosecute you under the dangerous dogs act. Your dogs are clearly IMO dangerously out of control in a public place by chasing other animals and trying to kill them. The Dangerous Dogs Act covers this irresponsibilty and saying my dog would listen will not be the best of defences!

Hope that helps ) [/quote]

They could have armed gyrocopters and gun the dogs down from the air!

 

[YorksG]

If the monitors are on private land without the permission of the landowner then they are trespassing, surely if they were then to discharge a shotgun or a rifle they would be comitting further offences? Breaking a law to stop other people possibly breaking a different law, what an odd form of logic.