Lame horse- Photos of shoes (especially for Nailed!)

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Following on from my lame horse post yesterday, please see below some photos of her shoes...

I am awaiting a call back from my farrier to discuss pads for the hard ground, but i still would like her balance checked as this is what it was last time...

Here goes..

Her legs....
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From another angle... closer to try and get a better picture
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Underneath...
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Would love to know comments...

Thanks xx
 
When was she last shod?

My lad has NB shoes...but yours appear to be too small for her feet---unless she's due for shoeing.

I'm not a farrier...so I may be talking absolute crap...I am prepared to be completely and utterly wrong.
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She was shod Monday 20th, so 10 days ago...

No, please I want the comments. He feet always look small and neat and he always does a great job. Im just struggling to decide if its unbalanced her again or the hard ground, or indeed a little of both....

THEN, what i need to do to make it better!! xx
 
I dont think the shoes are too small but they could be a bit longer at the heel. Foot pastern axis is ok but heels are slightly under-run, this would be helped with more length on the heel of the shoe
 
iam no expert here, but to me she looks like the foot is tilting forward, so the toe would wear more than the back of the shoe. I would think about having longer heels to try and reduce that appearance?? just my thought.... but i have seen so so much worse, they aren't bad feet by any means.
 

I've been through sheer hell with my horse caused by a poor farrier that I wasn't happy with - my last Farrier had taken too much heel off, dumped the toe, the hoof pastern axis was all wrong and hey presto, a very very uncomfortable unhappy horse! - his heels couldn't expand and the pressure went all up his leg and through his body he's needed:

ongoing remedial shoeing, physio, vet treatment etc etc,

Yours hasn't done a bad job, could have much more support at the heel, my advice would be NB shoes really do not suit every horse, they can give them a short, choppy stride -and with my horse, he hated pads too as they can put pressure on the soles.

If the lameness continues see what your Farrier can do to help, or if he can try more of a normal shoe, it may be worth getting the feet xrayed too to check the angles and balance and see what your vet suggests.

Good luck and hope it's a positive outcome and that your farrier is able to help you.
 
Agree Teddy T. From the 2nd picture it really looks as though there is not much supporting her heel... this could however, be the angle of my camera??


foolsedition... do you mean to let her heel grow more... or the same as TeddyT, in that the shoe needs to be longer at the heel? x
 
The farrier has dumped the toe (rasped it off) which makes her feet look much more upright, but if you follow the true line of her hoof axis from the top, you'll see they are actually very flat. The 'white' you were worried about in the pictures on your previous thread are where the toes have been so severely dumped that the white line is showing.

The wide web heels hide the true position of the hoof heels, but I suspect they are underrun. The heels suprisingly dont looks hugely contracted, but they certainly be better.

All the above cause heel pain and it shows as 'navicular' syndrome

I don't know enough about shoeing to correct it with shoes on, but I would be able to correct them barefoot, although it would take a bit of time.
Since shoes aren't working, and are bloody expensive! have you considered having them off and getting a barefoot specialist in to have a look?
 
Preparing to be shot down but I think with this type of shoeing the hoof will overhang the shoe at the front. It is to improve the balance/breakover point. I think they look fine except I would expect to see the shoe go further back at the heel giving more support.
 
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Preparing to be shot down but I think with this type of shoeing the hoof will overhang the shoe at the front. It is to improve the balance/breakover point. I think they look fine except I would expect to see the shoe go further back at the heel giving more support.

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Youre right
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I'm going to stick my neck out here and say...

I think that the shoes are a size too small for her feet. I think with a slightly larger shoe the foot will be balanced better and better supported.
And they also need more "shoe" at the back to support the heels.
I also believe normal hunter shoes might have more benefit for her shape of feet
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Friend had a young horse that had been lame since it was shod; but continued working it to be broken in (lameness was 1 to 2/10th) got new farrier who put shoes on a size bigger and horse became sound as a pound. Never had a problem since.
 
I dont think the shoes are too small because if you look at the side shots the shoe is actually sticking out further than the foot. Yes, the heel needs to be longer on the shoe but it is set back at the toe for the breakover point. Having said that I suppose if you had a bigger shoe you could pull the sides in and so the heels would be more supported as the shoe would then be longer at the heel. But im not a farrier!
 
Im no expert either but just wanted to add someone I knew had the NB shoeing and it didnt suit her horse at all but I think they look like a decent job apart from maybe being left a little longer under the heels.
My old farrier used to set my then horses shoes back on the fronts as she had no heels and he was trying to correct it. The toes on my current horses hinds are always left slightly over the shoe.
 
NB shoes are not shod like normal shoes they are set back and the toe overhangs the shoe, this is normal

There is nothing wrong with the shoeing job as far as i can see off these pictures. If your horse is chopy/pottery you dont want to give it too much heel support and there is enough there already.

I went back to find your other post and if your horse has navicular your best course of action would be equipak. (its helped quite a frew of my nav horses and a couple with DJD too) Or similar. This costs roughly 15-20 per tube. The horse does look like it has small feet and may only need one tube!

The shoes would have to be removed to put the mesh under (through which the equipak is applied)

ps thanks Fizzimyst
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Thanks everyone for your comments.

Yes the NB shoes are always put on slightly further back providing a lower breakover point to reduce stress on the joint. (they can make them look odd if your not used to them!)

I have this morning posted pictures in NL of her new Equi-pack toes....

Fingers crossed they help! xx
 
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