Lame? Opinions please

[K95]

https://vimeo.com/user108272208

Hey everyone, wondering if you can give opinions on if there’s any lameness here - I’ve had opinions from others of 100% sound to 100% a problem!

2 videos on my Vimeo account there.

I could only trot in the field as it was too risky to leave the field - if he spooked he could run into a 70mph road and it was so windy plus tractors out I couldn’t risk it.

I will get into hard ground this week but can’t get back down until the weekend unfortunately. I will give vet a call now however if people feel it’s in need of attention ASAP.

 

[Tiddlypom]

Says no videos available to view. Are there privacy settings that need fettling?

 

[Dyllymoo]

I'm struggling to really see as the ground is rutted and the camera isn't directly in front of or behind the horse I'm afraid.

 

[Red-1]

I can see the video, but can't possibly tell from that clip.

 

[K95]

I'm struggling to really see as the ground is rutted and the camera isn't directly in front of or behind the horse I'm afraid.

I asked my taxi home to film just so I could look for anything obvious despite the ground conditions.
A few people have told me they can see an issue right away which is why I thought it was worth an ask online despite the bad camera work and conditions

 

[tallyho!]

You need a hard straight level surface - your vid says not a lot at all. The near hind looked like there was *something* but you really need a flat level surface.

 

[SpringArising]

Agree with others - sorry but impossible to tell. You need a hard level surface.

 

[K95]

Thanks everyone, I am aware it’s very hard to tell until I can get him on the road.

I guess my main question would be if this was your horse would you be happy leaving it a few days?

 

[Pinkvboots]

You can't tell from those videos as others have said you need a flat hard surface to trot him up on, if he looks sound and happy to walk I wouldn't think a few days wait is going to hurt.

 

[splashgirl45]

as others have said its very difficult to tell but if it was serious lameness i would expect him to be very unlevel and i only saw one very unlevel step. you need to try on a hard level surface to tell i am afraid...

 

[tallyho!]

Thanks everyone, I am aware it’s very hard to tell until I can get him on the road.

I guess my main question would be if this was your horse would you be happy leaving it a few days?

If you are worried, get him trotting up properly. Only then will you know. How can anyone answer that - no one can see what's wrong. If it was my horse I would walk/trot/turn both ways on level surface, no rug so you can see his whole body and then if it's dubious I'd call the vet.

 

[K95]

Thanks.

If I was able to get there every day it wouldn’t have asked the question I would have just trotted up on hard ground today.

But when it’s a 45 mile trip there with no bus route - it’s my only option to ask advice here. I’m unable to get there again till the weekend as my car is off the road.

I said in original post I was aware how difficult it was to tell but I thought if there was any subtle signs someone might be able to give pointers

 

[AmyMay]

I guess my main question would be if this was your horse would you be happy leaving it a few days?

I think my answer to that is probably yes. There’s nothing that’s immediately ringing alarm bells.

 

[K95]

I think my answer to that is probably yes. There’s nothing that’s immediately ringing alarm bells.

Thank you I work with birds and often there’s very subtle injury signs that would be invisible to most people but obvious to me. I thought it may be the same with this situation so glad no one has seen anything that strikes too odd

 

[AmyMay]

Thank you I work with birds and often there’s very subtle injury signs that would be invisible to most people but obvious to me. I thought it may be the same with this situation so glad no one has seen anything that strikes too odd

Well, as others have said, it’s not the ideal situation to assess soundness. But doesn’t seem obviously ‘hopping’.

 

[ycbm]

Nothing there that would make me tell you to get a vet immediately, the weekend will do for a trot on hard ground and then a vet depending on that.

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[PaintPonies]

What is making you question if there's a problem? Have you seen something that you think isn't quite right? other people telling you he doesn't look right? I think, usually, if you think there's a problem there probably is. If you look at him at the weekend and decide there is a problem will there be a delay before you can get back again? Is there an experienced person you can get to watch whilst you trot him up - impossible to evaluate on your own unless he's really lame.

 

[K95]

What is making you question if there's a problem? Have you seen something that you think isn't quite right? other people telling you he doesn't look right? I think, usually, if you think there's a problem there probably is. If you look at him at the weekend and decide there is a problem will there be a delay before you can get back again? Is there an experienced person you can get to watch whilst you trot him up - impossible to evaluate on your own unless he's really lame.

Hi it was mainly because I got told he’d got a foot caught in the fence and that they weren’t sure if he was lame (they being the people who work at the place he’s currently at - he’s still at the previous owners moving in a few weeks). I really couldn’t tell with the soft ground which is why I asked my lift home to video. Potentially he had noticeable lameness which lessened by the time I could get there I guess. I should be back on the road within the next week but just wanted opinions incase anyone spotted something that would need quicker assistance. Thanks

 

[PaintPonies]

In that case it could be that he just tweaked himself a bit and was lame at the time but quickly recovered. Presumably there are no signs of any external injuries/cuts etc? My horse jumped at a door that banged the other day & trod on his own heel. He was holding his leg up and doing the horsey equivalent of s@*t that hurt for a minute or two. After that he was fine apart from minor cut on the back of his heel. Technically he was lame but only for a very short period.

Maybe you can question the person that saw him get caught up more closely. Wouldn't be a big surprise if he hobbled off looking quite lame for a little while. Only you who has the horse in front of you (together with another set of eyes ideally) can really judge if he's still lame and needs further investigation.

 

[LadyGascoyne]

Hi, just a thought.

If the horse is still at the yard that you bought it from, have you bought this horse very recently?

If so, did you have the horse vetted, and was it sound?

I’d be a little more cautious if a horse that I had just bought, or was in the process of buying, had a non-obvious injury or very subtle lameness.

I’d be concerned that it was pre-existing and that it had been masked somehow.

 

[K95]

Hi, just a thought.

If the horse is still at the yard that you bought it from, have you bought this horse very recently?

If so, did you have the horse vetted, and was it sound?

I’d be a little more cautious if a horse that I had just bought, or was in the process of buying, had a non-obvious injury or very subtle lameness.

I’d be concerned that it was pre-existing and that it had been masked somehow.

Technically yes, I bought in July but was never going to move him straight away. I didn’t get him vetted as I only want him for pleasure riding. If I didn’t rehome him he’d be stuck waiting for a rehome off someone else. My friend runs the rescue and he came into the rescue. So it’s not like I’ve bought him off a dodgey dealer haha but I understand your concern!

 

[SpringArising]

FWIW, it's definitely worth getting a vetting done even if it's just for pleasure riding. For lameness issues, unless hopping, I always leave it for a few days and then reassess. There's nothing to vet will do at that point other than advise to rest.

 

[K95]

FWIW, it's definitely worth getting a vetting done even if it's just for pleasure riding. For lameness issues, unless hopping, I always leave it for a few days and then reassess. There's nothing to vet will do at that point other than advise to rest.

He’s a rescue I’d rather give him a nice home than not if I was buying properly/from a dealer I 100% would get a vetting done

 

[Dyllymoo]

I'm sorry but some alarm bells are ringing here. I do hope I am wrong but please be careful buying from a rescue. Horses are not cheap when things go wrong (genuinely I hope I'm wrong)

 

[K95]

I'm sorry but some alarm bells are ringing here. I do hope I am wrong but please be careful buying from a rescue. Horses are not cheap when things go wrong (genuinely I hope I'm wrong)

It’s my friends place, I saw him a few days after he arrived and he was sound x

 

[Dyllymoo]

It’s my friends place, I saw him a few days after he arrived and he was sound x

I understand that but I'm sorry that doesn't mean alarm bells cant ring.