Lame post laminitis trim

[Annie&Amy]

My girl had her second lot of imprint shoes put on yesterday, she was a bit stiff when we walked her back to stable but she had been standing for 2 hours, gave her a bute last night and she was fine this morning. This afternoon she is very lame, she will walk but not keen on turning or having feet lifted. No digital pulses in any of her feet. I've called vet and she advised box rest, two bute today and see how she is in am, give her one bute then and reduce till she's off it. Also waiting for farrier to call me. Is this normal post trims, obviously she's having fairly radicul trimming as her pedal bone had dropped so he's trying to get hoof wall to align with pedal bone and her soles are very thin. In herself she's very very bright, in a right mood that she's in again as she has been going up to field twice a day for a little graze. After her first lot of imprints four weeks ago she was 100% better so think it's just scared me a bit!!! Farriers just called me and he's coming to see her again tonight xxxx

 

[Eaglestone]

I am sorry but I do not think that grazing is a good idea and moving her at all. I would suggest that you put her on box rest until the Vet has seen her

 

[Annie&Amy]

She is on box rest now she's lame again re vet

 

[Eaglestone]

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She is on box rest now she's lame again re vet

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Sorry I must have misunderstood, as I thought you said that you took her out to graze a couple of times today .....

 

[brighteyes]

Your mare should still be on box rest from the first 'bout' of laminitis - which to my mind you never resolved, so no wonder she has 'relapsed'. Sorry, you completely dismay me with your continued refusal to accept advice from those who have been where you are now and got safely (eventually) out the other side.

WATCH THIS VIDEO and yes, I am shouting.

 

[Annie&Amy]

Considering i have been going on the advice of my vet and my farrier all through this horrendous time i find it pretty disgusting that you are accusing me of ignoring advice, at the end of the day have you seen my horse, no!! I would do anything and i mean anything to help my girl and find it very upsetting that you take that attitude with me. I simply come on here to find out what others have been going through but it is the last time i will do this. Just for your information the farrier has been back out to see her and feels it is just her feeling the effects of the trim yesterday, she will be back on box rest until i am advised by my vet otherwise (p.s it was my vet that said she could have grass and she has been qualified for 10 years in a solely equine practice, it is not something i have done off my own back!)

 

[Flame_]

Hello again. Sorry things aren't improving simply for you and your horse. I'm not sure what I can tell you more than the good advice you've already been given, perhaps a different slant on things.

OK, when horses get laminitis there are standard treatments (box rest, remedial shoeing, medication) and standard triggers (obesity, over-grazing, over-feeding). If your horse does not fit the pidgeon hole triggers and does not respond to the standard treatments it really depends on exactly how good and how interested your vet is to think outside the box. Everything's moved on a bit from those standards now and the illness is better understood so I'm sure your vet will come up with some ideas to try, beyond just upping the bute and carrying on with what you are doing.

If they don't, its not good enough. If this is your first time dealing with laminitis you are totally reliant on your vet's advice and if they haven't done their homework they are letting you down. The longer your pony stays ill the less chance you have of her recovering at all, and she should have really improved by now. I'm inclined to think your vet is guessing what to do for the best regarding grazing, as it varies in all cases, and what they've suggested is not working for your horse.

Either change vets or get doing more research on your own. Have you looked at the links Brighteyes has given you? You need to be able to go back to your vets with some questions and suggestions to throw at them and get them thinking. If your horse's case is a bit complicated its up to you to go the extra mile and find out as much as you can so you can do some brainstorming with your vet.

It isn't terrible that your pony is lamer, but it isn't good either and you're right to be concerned. I do hope you can get her right.

 

[brighteyes]

I stand by everything I have said to you. I have no idea what sort of a vet would promote grazing/moving of a laminitic animal in the early stages of recovery. Have you watched any of the videos or checked out any of my other links?

Didn't think so. You are quite rude in that you never say thanks (or even thanks but no thanks) and continue random posts which make you seem like you are not listening to anyone. I am genuinely sorry for your mare and hope she gets better soon - in spite of the advice you are following from your experts. Just stop coming on here, saying you have just done xyz which has been suggested as not recommended, and think we aren't going to get irritated.

 

[brighteyes]

Thank the Lord. Take a bow KVS

 

[angiebaby]

Agree with brighteyes, so sorry for your mare, but you need to stop having her feet trimmed and keep her in until she is sound for 30 days after pain killers. This is standard practise for laminitics; do go onto the Laminitis Trust website.
And change your vet.

 

[kizzywiz]

Sorry, but I agree with brighteyes & jakesmydog, think you need to do some more research. I have answered your posts more than once about being in too much of a hurry, & how this would only put you back. If she is in pain turning, why are you turning her. I think as someone else said, you need a vet to help you look beyond giving her more bute, the radical trimming scares me a bit too, my farrier trained at the Laminitis Clinic for 2 years, & he did Megs feet every 4 weeks, so little & often. I do hope she gets better, but I did say before that it seemed very soon to be out grazing.

 

[LankyDoodle]

I am one who did not get safely out the other side

I DID take the advice of people on here and of the country's leading expert - Robert Eustace. So I am inclined to agree with brighteyes and jakesmydog and eaglestone, all three of whom were FANTASTIC support to me when our mare was sick and consequently died. I respected their advice as they have been there and done that. They were also fantastic friends when eventually I made the right decision to have her pts.

I know this is a hard time for you, but if you ask for advice here, don't take it as an attack when you are given it.

 

[angiebaby]

Thanks Carrie, how was your holiday and hows George?
Sorry for taking over the post!