Lameness

[Lmorrow]

my warmblood is coming up for 6 and had issues regarding lameness for a while (never been right since a big tie up 5 months prior) Physio said her back was very tight and we brought her back to basics to strengthen her up from the ground. We had her back xrayed (small signs of kissing spines in a very small area but vet was not concerned by this at all). When ridden she refused to go forward and wanted you off. She was telling us she was in pain.
That was 10months ago. Her behaviour has changed she is massively happier in work. She is hacking out and going forward in school/popping fences. This indicates to me that we are going in the right direction and we are so pleased.
However, she is still not 100% right. I still see mild lameness in and out and she trips a way more than I feel comfortable with. She has lack of engagement and power from behind and I feel she doesn’t raise her hind legs from the ground enough whilst working. Maybe a stifle problem?
She isn’t insured and from the back X-rays I feel we need to look elsewhere. Would you suggest the stifle next? Different vets have said different things. This could be costly and with money I don’t have. Can anyone tell me their thoughts pls?

 

[Lmorrow]

my warmblood is coming up for 6 and had issues regarding lameness for a while (never been right since a big tie up 5 months prior) Physio said her back was very tight and we brought her back to basics to strengthen her up from the ground. We had her back xrayed (small signs of kissing spines in a very small area but vet was not concerned by this at all). When ridden she refused to go forward and wanted you off. She was telling us she was in pain.
That was 10months ago. Her behaviour has changed she is massively happier in work. She is hacking out and going forward in school/popping fences. This indicates to me that we are going in the right direction and we are so pleased.
However, she is still not 100% right. I still see mild lameness in and out and she trips a way more than I feel comfortable with. She has lack of engagement and power from behind and I feel she doesn’t raise her hind legs from the ground enough whilst working. Maybe a stifle problem?
She isn’t insured and from the back X-rays I feel we need to look elsewhere. Would you suggest the stifle next? Different vets have said different things. This could be costly and with money I don’t have. Can anyone tell me their thoughts pls?

my warmblood is coming up for 6 and had issues regarding lameness for a while (never been right since a big tie up 5 months prior) Physio said her back was very tight and we brought her back to basics to strengthen her up from the ground. We had her back xrayed (small signs of kissing spines in a very small area but vet was not concerned by this at all). When ridden she refused to go forward and wanted you off. She was telling us she was in pain.
That was 10months ago. Her behaviour has changed she is massively happier in work. She is hacking out and going forward in school/popping fences. This indicates to me that we are going in the right direction and we are so pleased.
However, she is still not 100% right. I still see mild lameness in and out and she trips a way more than I feel comfortable with. She has lack of engagement and power from behind and I feel she doesn’t raise her hind legs from the ground enough whilst working. Maybe a stifle problem?
She isn’t insured and from the back X-rays I feel we need to look elsewhere. Would you suggest the stifle next? Different vets have said different things. This could be costly and with money I don’t have. Can anyone tell me their thoughts pls?

 

[Flowerofthefen]

How is she bred?

 

[Lmorrow]

How is she bred?

 

[Lmorrow]

How is she bred?

Sire umberto ll - concorde
Vhilavsca fortuna
Dam utelse - celano keur
Hedieelse

 

[Snow Falcon]

PSSM?

 

[Zoeypxo]

Id be tempted to start at the feet and look for NPA.
Could your vet do nerve blocks to determine lameness to a certain area?
The symptoms you describe could be a lot of things!

 

[Equi]

Is she tripping at the front or the back? A video of her in action would be helpful in this case, in particular a video of her tripping.

 

[Flowerofthefen]

Sire umberto ll - concorde
Vhilavsca fortuna
Dam utelse - celano keur
Hedieelse

The reason I ask is because there are a few wb stallions that pass on neurological issues. But as others have said it could be one of many many things.

 

[sbloom]

And so many of these (usually connected) issues go back to postural issues, lifting the thoracic sling is seldom even mentioned when addressing treatment and rehab. I'd never advise not eeeking vet advice for lameness, but sometimes (always?) looking at the more postural approaches, and using that as a filter to look at individual problems, is worth doing.

 

[Flowerofthefen]

And so many of these (usually connected) issues go back to postural issues, lifting the thoracic sling is seldom even mentioned when addressing treatment and rehab. I'd never advise not eeeking vet advice for lameness, but sometimes (always?) looking at the more postural approaches, and using that as a filter to look at individual problems, is worth doing.

Funny you should mention thoracic sling. I went to an inhand classical dressage demo and this was mentioned numerous times. It was very interesting.

 

[sbloom]

Funny you should mention thoracic sling. I went to an inhand classical dressage demo and this was mentioned numerous times. It was very interesting.

The sling and compensatory movement patterns are at the bottom of way more apparent "injuries" and other lamenesses than we realise. Improving it earlier would likely reduce the whackamole approach that goes on with hocks, suspensories, SI etc

 

[Lmorrow]

Is she tripping at the front or the back? A video of her in action would be helpful in this case, in particular a video of her tripping.

Is she tripping at the front or the back? A video of her in action would be helpful in this case, in particular a video of her tripping.

my warmblood is coming up for 6 and had issues regarding lameness for a while (never been right since a big tie up 5 months prior) Physio said her back was very tight and we brought her back to basics to strengthen her up from the ground. We had her back xrayed (small signs of kissing spines in a very small area but vet was not concerned by this at all). When ridden she refused to go forward and wanted you off. She was telling us she was in pain.
That was 10months ago. Her behaviour has changed she is massively happier in work. She is hacking out and going forward in school/popping fences. This indicates to me that we are going in the right direction and we are so pleased.
However, she is still not 100% right. I still see mild lameness in and out and she trips a way more than I feel comfortable with. She has lack of engagement and power from behind and I feel she doesn’t raise her hind legs from the ground enough whilst working. Maybe a stifle problem?
She isn’t insured and from the back X-rays I feel we need to look elsewhere. Would you suggest the stifle next? Different vets have said different things. This could be costly and with money I don’t have. Can anyone tell me their thoughts pls?

 

[Lmorrow]

Is she tripping at the front or the back? A video of her in action would be helpful in this case, in particular a video of her tripping.

 

[Flowerofthefen]

I'm sure someone will be along in a minute that knows what they are talking about but she doesn't look right at all in her back end.

 

[Lmorrow]

I'm sure someone will be along in a minute that knows what they are talking about but she doesn't look right at all in her back end.

I know ? obviously I’m getting the vet involved but also wanted opinions too. She has never been right since her tie up but most definitely improving.

 

[Sossigpoker]

I know ? obviously I’m getting the vet involved but also wanted opinions too. She has never been right since her tie up but most definitely improving.

She is really rather lame behind. The back pain is highly likely to be as a result of the hind end lameness. Any qualified physio should know this so it's disappointing that they didn't tell you this.

Honestly , you should absolutely not ride her and get a vet out for a lameness work-up. The way she almost bunny-hops in canter indicates she's very uncomfortable and the lameness is obvious in the trot.
The vet will likely do nerve blocks and isolate the location of the lameness and you can then go from there.

 

[Lmorrow]

Ok thankyou

 

[nutjob]

The back end looks very uncomfortable to me. One of mine had a lack of push from behind due to suspensory problems but it needs a proper veterinary work up. As mentioned above the back problem could be secondary to something else. I also wouldn't keep riding the horse and would get a work up done asap.

 

[Zoeypxo]

Keep us updated

 

[Equi]

Yeah definitely uncomfortable and something not right. Are you insured?

 

[Lmorrow]

Yeah definitely uncomfortable and something not right. Are you insured?

No she’s not insured but the vet is coming out to see her to see where to go from here.