laminitis and selling

I've bought numerous ponies who have previously suffered from lami (more common among kids ponies) and all have been perfectly manageable. If your horse was perfect for me in every other way it wouldn't put me off.
 
I can understand why people wouldn't want the management hassle or risk. However, as someone who is currently looking for a second horse and that already owns a lami susceptible Sec A (who needs super careful management) this post got me thinking and I wouldn't personally rule it out, assuming bloods have been done.

If anything, one thing I've decided is that whatever I do decide to buy will be a good doer so both horses can be on a relatively similar management routine. My boy currently lives with our liveries, an ISH and a Warmblood, who couldn't be more opposite, which results in Harry having to be paddocked separately throughout the year.

Anyway, I have just sent you a pm OP.
 
Noblesteed - that is EXACTLY what happened to Shy. His muzzle was being removed, and he was being fed inappropriate stuff by someone. I was beyond furious, but fortunately he was just on the cusp when I realised. I have always been so very careful, and I was devastated.
 
My old mega lami prone pony was moved by the yard owner to her own fatty paddock that was 90% bare, while I was on holiday. Only problem was it was next to the haylage barn and overnight she lent on the fence and helped herself to a lot of haylage. She also cut and bruised her throat from leaning and damaged her eye. Expensive vet bill that was! I was fuming that the YO thought it was appropriate to put my pony in a starvation paddock next to an all you can eat buffet! Pony was on holiday full livery and YO couldn't be bothered to keep putting her muzzle on and off so chucked her in the bare section to starve :( xx
 
Spottyappy said:
I woud not be totally put off the laminitis for the right horse,but I would want to speak to your vet and farrier. Mine are all managed as laminitics anyway, like some of the other posters,and if the ems test negative,then it should need carful management but not not be unduly worried about it returning.
However, one of mine had stress induced laminitis when we brought her as she was so upset by the move to me. So, just be aware that can happen. My one had never had it before, and even though I immediately managed as a laminitic, still came down with it. So, something to just discuss with anyone who is seriously considering the purchase. I don't think I could have done anything to avoid it, the mare is a stress head anyway, and the change of home obviously stressed her too much.
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this is exactly what happened to me, though she was overweight. it was set off with the stress of moving, poor pony had been with 1 owner from 6 months old (was 7) then to dealer and then to me (within a week) must have been too much for her she is very attached to people she knows.
we have moved yards twice and then moved to a home with land/stables, she has taken all this in her stride as she was with same owners and other horses.
in 2 years no repeat and though I watch her weight she can live out in summer:)
 
Depends on the history really. My parents bought a horse 42 yrs ago that had awful lami, with careful management they got him back to full health and never again in his life did he have a touch of it.

I wouldn't rule it out.
 
Shysmum that's terrible. I understand your fury!
The crazy thing was the bloody stupid woman who took his muzzle off then tried to tell me there was nothing wrong with him, the muzzle didn't work anyway as he was 'eating around it', the farrier was wrong and I was making a fuss about nothing just to be difficult! Grrrrrr!!!!
He'd had 5 days without the muzzle on spring grass. I had gone up to put it on him, in between newborn baby's feeds, then left him in the care of his loaner. She being a teenager listened to the bloody woman and didn't think to tell me she had taken the muzzle off. I went up to meet the farrier and as I brought him in noticed he was footy. That was in April. I couldn't ride til baby was 3 months old due to preggy complications so he was turned out barefoot til then - the end of June when we both got fit together. He's been fine since aside from pulses caused by a change to haylage at our new yard - as soon as he was back on hay they went.
Like many of yours he's fine on hay and fast fibre, being spanish it's not wise to let him have too much sugary stuff anyway!

He is sadly for sale as I have a 10 month old son and am unexpectedly expecting again!
 
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I sold my terribly lamni pony to a family I knew who would be more hard hearted then me and restrict his grazing for the rest of his life - and that life went on for many more years and they had great fun from the pony - Having said that I sold a 100% PC pony who could have been valued at £K's without the lam problem for about £120.......But I hated keeping him with TB's who were on lush meadows 24/7 and he was on a 0.006 acre bare patch in solitary confinement - he went to one of those livery yards where every horse gets 0.00006% of turn-out and thrived, and had friends all around him!
I now have one elderly pony who never had lami - until he started to develop cushings - but this year he has been fine turned out in a big field with his TB pals - he is ancient, and if he gets lami again this Spring - it will be the final round-up - but he has enoyed this winter bossing the TB's around, not muzzled, or restricted.
What is worse, I wonder, one bout of lami - then careful grazing or sweet itch? Have had both in extreme forms over the year, and would never knowingly purchase a horse with either complaint - but some people do deal with it admirably......
 
I sold my stepson's first pony. She had had two attacks of lami, but had been fit and sound for six months. I wanted her to go as she had nobody small enough to ride her and I wanted her active to prevent it coming back. I was totally honest with everyone who enquired, and I halved what I would have asked her the year before. Lots of people were very wary and said no. It was quite demoralising, but at the end of the day I wanted her to go to a home that understood what they were dealing with and could cope. Eventually, the sixth people that came were experienced, having another pony with cushings. They loved her and bought her. After a great year with her, she ended up having another attack, and being diagnosed with EMS, but they seem to manage it ok and are happy.

I think there is no point remorsing about what happened and why the horse got it, he has, thats it. You just have to be totally honest and upfront, make sure that the owner realises exactly what care would have to go into the care of a lami pony. You owe it to the pony to sell to the right home.

If I was buying, I would want tests for EMS. At the time I had never heard of it - I wasn't on this forum in those days and had never encountered another one with it until our old pony got it. Ironically I've heard of a few more since, it seems to be diagnosed more and more lately. I'm lucky, I have my own yard and two other fatties, so would be more capable of dealing with a lami than a lot of people.
 
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