Latest hideous Dog Attack

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Horse and Hound News. Poor horse collapsed after being attacked by two dogs, one of which latched onto his muzzle and left him with nasty injuries. The owner was present and the Police were called to the scene. No mention las to what action they will take against the owner of the dogs. The owner of the horse as well as suffering trauma all of can identify with, faces large vet bills. I hope Police will be take action against the dog owner, we see these attacks to often.
 

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a neighbour of ours had 2 japanese akitas who attacked a woman with a small dog in her arms , no damage just terrified her, he sometimes lets them out in the lane loose, my friend had run for his life with my jack russell,who is like a lap dog, to get away from them

last year i was bitten by a huge male lassie collie dog while getting my dogs leg out of his mouth,, we were both injured
 

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As a dog lover, I think something needs to be done about dog ownership in the UK. Licences and training certificates.

I hope the rider sues the owner, the more people that take action, the less likely insurance companies will insure dogs that have not had training.
 

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Sadly the owners of badly or untrained dogs appear to be in total denial. The "he is only playing" comment when their dog is acting aggressively towards one's own dog/horse makes me so angry. These dog owners just have no understanding of dog "language" and are unable to recognise bad behaviour. Ignorance, to my mind, is no excuse.
Large, athletic dog breeds may be sweet puppies but once they gain size and weight are, as we see regularly, positively lethal. Too many dogs are purchased for entirely the wrong reasons, no wonder there are so many in rescue homes. Tragically some will already be too spoiled in character to find another home.
 

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I hate dogs. I never used to mind them but these days its never the owners fault and the dogs dont mean anything by it and they are just playing! Same with kids and teenagers these days too come to think of it ...
 

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I don’t understand it, are people getting more stupid and lazy or are we just more aware of them through social media. I was out on a hack the other day, man with three dogs. Two larger mongrels sat politely with him at the side of the track, third dog comes over and carefully and thoroughly sniffs my horses fetlocks.... front and back. Horse stands like a rock and dog did no harm but seriously? I was completely baffled!
 

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Dog ownership does seem to have become a bit of an entitlement. When I was at school hardly anyone had a pet dog at home. Some had working dogs and some had parents who were experienced pet dog owners, but it was very few as a proportion. These days it seems like almost everyone has a dog and it's treated as a bit of a right - even if you live in a city centre bedsit, are out all day and have no idea how to train it.
 
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even if you live in a city centre bedsit, are out all day and have no idea how to train it.
also with more people moving out to what were country towns and commuting, there are more dogs that they brought with them that have never had the stimulus of sheep/horses etc before and more people buying dogs because they now live in the country that are clueless. The number of dog attacks on sheep round me has escalated since they built the new estate in town. Some of the attitudes on FB of these people towards farmers and stock is astounding and there seems to be a real sense of entitlement that they can go where they want. Even if the dogs aren't worrying stock the owners are causing damage by not picking up after them on grazing land so neosporosis is on the increase as well.
 

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I really do not think people who live in a tiny bedsit in the city should be allowed to keep dogs, and if they are out at work all day it is even worse, poor dogs.
When I was a teenager and wanted a dog, I had a stream of smaller pets first, to show my parents i would look after them, and not get fed up.
 

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I can't help but blame the owners in basically any instance of a dog attack. I know they're animals and think for themselves etc, but ultimately they are the responsibility of the owners.

The Hawick one is disturbing, why anyone would leave a 6 week baby unattended, within reach of a terrier (or any dog for that matter) is beyond me.

I am going to make an assumption here, considering the area, and the fact the house is occupied by sight hounds as well as the terrier in question that they are/were working dogs; this just makes things worse.

Hawick - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...screaming-house-seeing-six-week-old-baby.html

Cornwall - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...year-old-boy-death-Cornwall-holiday-park.html

Horse incident - https://www.horseandhound.co.uk/new...fying-dog-attack-warning-graphic-image-684170
 

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I can't help but blame the owners in basically any instance of a dog attack. I know they're animals and think for themselves etc, but ultimately they are the responsibility of the owners.

The Hawick one is disturbing, why anyone would leave a 6 week baby unattended, within reach of a terrier (or any dog for that matter) is beyond me.

I am going to make an assumption here, considering the area, and the fact the house is occupied by sight hounds as well as the terrier in question that they are/were working dogs; this just makes things worse.

Hawick - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...screaming-house-seeing-six-week-old-baby.html

Cornwall - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...year-old-boy-death-Cornwall-holiday-park.html

Horse incident - https://www.horseandhound.co.uk/new...fying-dog-attack-warning-graphic-image-684170
I wouldn’t make any assumptions until we know, both the attack in Hawick and in Cornwall just sound horrendous
 

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I really do not think people who live in a tiny bedsit in the city should be allowed to keep dogs, and if they are out at work all day it is even worse, poor dogs.
When I was a teenager and wanted a dog, I had a stream of smaller pets first, to show my parents i would look after them, and not get fed up.
I know of people in Germany who keep large dogs in apartments. They are very well kept/trained, socialised and exercised.
I know people in the UK who keep dogs in detached properties with large gardens. Their dogs are fat, see nothing and go nowhere. I think it's attitude and work ethic rather than floorspace.
 

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Also... breeders. Where are all the responsible breeders? Everywhere I look I see doodle-this, dordle that... mongrels online selling for hundreds of pounds to people who know nothing about the mix of breeds they’re buying apart from its fashionable at the moment to just buy something with “hilarious genetics”.

What are the councils doing about the dog poos that are being left in bags all over the place? Delicately hung In trees as if they grew there, gate posts, school gates, just placed carefully by lamp-posts... oh and a really thoughtful one, in people’s recycling bins. You know, just arranged there like it’s meant to be pretty I’ve a mind to start collecting and place them all on the council doorstep by the wheelbarrow load on a weekly basis.

Whoops! Slight tangent there... but makes a mockery of the rest of us who do pick up. I’m so embarrassed I pick up other people’s too!
 

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Also... breeders. Where are all the responsible breeders? Everywhere I look I see doodle-this, dordle that... mongrels online selling for hundreds of pounds to people who know nothing about the mix of breeds they’re buying apart from its fashionable at the moment to just buy something with “hilarious genetics”.

What are the councils doing about the dog poos that are being left in bags all over the place? Delicately hung In trees as if they grew there, gate posts, school gates, just placed carefully by lamp-posts... oh and a really thoughtful one, in people’s recycling bins. You know, just arranged there like it’s meant to be pretty I’ve a mind to start collecting and place them all on the council doorstep by the wheelbarrow load on a weekly basis.

Whoops! Slight tangent there... but makes a mockery of the rest of us who do pick up. I’m so embarrassed I pick up other people’s too!

It would be better to take them to the doorstep of the idiots who leave their filled bags decorating the countryside.
 

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Regarding the dog mess - at least we're not treading in it as much these days. I recently visited Nice and spent most of the time looking at the pavement avoiding the poo left by the dog owners. I'd forgotten how disgusting it used to be in the UK.

And on the earlier post about the dog sniffing around the horse's legs - I tell dog owners that my horse will kick out.
 

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I'm going to be controversial here, and say I think a lot of the problems in dog behaviour nowadays is due to the huge increase in "fluffy" training methods. I am all for positive training but in many cases people just don't seem to know how to deal with dogs that might need firmer methods. I am in a breed fb group which is anti any sort of aversive training methods, even down to half check collars. I am sure its not a coincidence that they have so many posts from people who can't cope with their unruly dogs. There are also so many badly behaved dogs of all breeds turning up in rescues, mostly just needing a few boundaries.
A neighbour has recently acquired a 6 month old collie from DT, she is its 3rd home. She is a farmers daughter who grew up with working dogs, but has been taking this pup to a local training class. She is really struggling with pup pulling (walked in a harness), jumping up, mouthing etc. I suggested a few methods I use, none of which involve battering the dog but for eg a half check collar. I met her a few days ago and she thanked me profusely, pup has better manners, and as she put it , she was doubting herself as she felt she should be doing more to correct the behaviour rather just ignore it, but felt she the trainer must be right.
 

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I really do not think people who live in a tiny bedsit in the city should be allowed to keep dogs, and if they are out at work all day it is even worse, poor dogs.
When I was a teenager and wanted a dog, I had a stream of smaller pets first, to show my parents i would look after them, and not get fed up.
When I was breeding I sold a pup to a lady who lived in a flat in Hammersmith. I thought long and hard about it, but she worked from home so dog was rarely left, and wanted to do working trials. She drove up from London several times to see the pups before I had even committed to let her have one.
That pup had the most wonderful home, house trained super quick because she had to be alert to the first signs of her needing to go out, and went on to gain working trials qualifications.
 

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@MurphysMinder, totally agree!

I went to a training class for the first time with my first puppy as an adult, it was useless. For example to stop the dog jumping up just turn your body we were told, my lab ignored that a firm no and uh uh did the trick but this wasn't acceptable in the class, my puppy was the best at recall in the class but not good in the park, no help was given when I asked.
This explains to me why Dogs in my local park often jump up at me.

I think the worst thing that happens with most dogs with this method of training is naughty, unpleasant dogs, but with the wrong type of dog it can be dangerous.

A previous dog of mine had been attacked by two greyhounds who had escaped from their house, puncture wounds, lots of blood, very traumatic for me and the dog. I mentioned this on the forum in reference to an incidence where a staffy had run at me and growled and was complaining about it, someone said it was partly due to the nervous vibes I was giving out. FFS talk about victim blaming and excusing bad behaviour!!
 
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Also... breeders. Where are all the responsible breeders? Everywhere I look I see doodle-this, dordle that... mongrels online selling for hundreds of pounds to people who know nothing about the mix of breeds they’re buying apart from its fashionable at the moment to just buy something with “hilarious genetics”.
Oh you're so right with this. I saw a Facebook post from a dog groomer saying if you have a dasc-tzu or whatever made up, dodgy breed, you should research the breed carefully and its needs before getting one....it isn't a breed!

Research the important things; exercise needs, common health complaints, feeding information, suitability and trainability. Not "is it cuter than my neighbours / friends". Its a dog, not an accessory.
 
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a work colleague has just put down a deposit on a labradoodle- the 'crazy' breeder had 4 other litters of doodle pups and several litters of kittens. all in a 3 bed suburban semi. these dogs are being churned out in massive numbers and going to people who frankly don't have the time or the know how.
 
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