Noodlejaffa
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Has anyone used her? What's she like and how expensive is she?
Laura Chaffe Dental Technician - Scotland
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sea_view
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Hi mrs, name doesn't ring a bell but I'll ask around my horsey friends and see if I can get any feedback x
Shiraz
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Hi
If you are in Scotland I highly recommend David Brown. There are only two fully qualified EDTs in Scotland - David Brown and Mark Thorne.
I would not risk my horses health with some half trained cowboys.
Check out this site for QUALIFIED EDTS http://www.beva.org.uk/taxonomy_menu/16
Sorry I just feel really strongly about these people who at most have been on a two week training course and then set to on horses mouths.
Read a book or look up dentistry on the net and you will see how complex it is and what can happen when it goes wrong.
Your horse only has one mouth!!
David is generally £30-35 for ponies and £40 for horses but I think it depends on how many horses he is going out to - you can discuss this on the phone with him. I can't recommend him highly enough and I was lucky enough to get to shadow him for a day and I learnt so much.
His number is on the BEVA website or if you have any trouble feel free to PM.
If you are in Scotland I highly recommend David Brown. There are only two fully qualified EDTs in Scotland - David Brown and Mark Thorne.
I would not risk my horses health with some half trained cowboys.
Check out this site for QUALIFIED EDTS http://www.beva.org.uk/taxonomy_menu/16
Sorry I just feel really strongly about these people who at most have been on a two week training course and then set to on horses mouths.
Read a book or look up dentistry on the net and you will see how complex it is and what can happen when it goes wrong.
Your horse only has one mouth!!
David is generally £30-35 for ponies and £40 for horses but I think it depends on how many horses he is going out to - you can discuss this on the phone with him. I can't recommend him highly enough and I was lucky enough to get to shadow him for a day and I learnt so much.
His number is on the BEVA website or if you have any trouble feel free to PM.
hussar
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Hi
If you are in Scotland I highly recommend David Brown. There are only two fully qualified EDTs in Scotland - David Brown and Mark Thorne.
I would not risk my horses health with some half trained cowboys.
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I think it's a little harsh to imply that all those equine dentists who are not registered EDTs are half-trained cowboys! There are several who have very good reputations with clients and vets who trained elsewhere. I have used Alex Scott for years, and he trained in the States. He's extremely good with the horses and my vet reckons he does a good job.
You are right though that practically anyone with a rasp and a gag can set themselves up as an equine dentist...
Hi
If you are in Scotland I highly recommend David Brown. There are only two fully qualified EDTs in Scotland - David Brown and Mark Thorne.
I would not risk my horses health with some half trained cowboys.
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I think it's a little harsh to imply that all those equine dentists who are not registered EDTs are half-trained cowboys! There are several who have very good reputations with clients and vets who trained elsewhere. I have used Alex Scott for years, and he trained in the States. He's extremely good with the horses and my vet reckons he does a good job.
You are right though that practically anyone with a rasp and a gag can set themselves up as an equine dentist...
Shiraz
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Sorry, I didn't mean to be quite so harsh but it is something I feel very strongly about!
Alex is qualified and has sat and passed the exams but he just never renewed his membership to have his name kept on the list. I did think about mentioning him along with David & Mark in my original post.
Like you said anyone with a rasp and a gag can set up as a EDT and I think it is an outrage. I got the info pack for one of the training courses ran in England and it is unbelievable that people think they can learn all about a horses mouth in 2wks. The course is so comprehensive and the equipment provided (included in the cost of the course in most cases) is cheap and nasty. Not effective at all and that then means more stress on/in your horses mouth as the dentist has to keep rasping away and don't even get me started on people using electrical equipment when they are not trained...you should see the mess that can be made in the wrong hands
Alex is qualified and has sat and passed the exams but he just never renewed his membership to have his name kept on the list. I did think about mentioning him along with David & Mark in my original post.
Like you said anyone with a rasp and a gag can set up as a EDT and I think it is an outrage. I got the info pack for one of the training courses ran in England and it is unbelievable that people think they can learn all about a horses mouth in 2wks. The course is so comprehensive and the equipment provided (included in the cost of the course in most cases) is cheap and nasty. Not effective at all and that then means more stress on/in your horses mouth as the dentist has to keep rasping away and don't even get me started on people using electrical equipment when they are not trained...you should see the mess that can be made in the wrong hands
joanne1920
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thanks for the link to equine dentists, ive looked for the dentist our livery yard uses and he's not listed, like farriery is it illegal ?? ive printed the list off and ill be putting it on the pin board in feed room for everyone to see!
anyone in cambridgeshire know of a good equine dentist?
anyone in cambridgeshire know of a good equine dentist?
Noodlejaffa
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I used Alex Scott the last time (following hussar's recommendation) and I was really impressed with him.
Just asking about Laura Chaffe as I seem to have seen an awful lot of ads for recently and hadn't heard anything about her.
Just asking about Laura Chaffe as I seem to have seen an awful lot of ads for recently and hadn't heard anything about her.
Shiraz
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It's not illegal as there are no legislation in place -YET. I know that qualified EDTs, BEVA & BAEDT are pushing for this to happen sooner rather than later; they will be in place eventually but I don't personally know when.
If you look in Equi-ads (the scottish one anyway) it is full of adverts for EDTs and I haven't seen any of them on the list... Stating that they are "fully insured" doesn't mean anything.
My personal advice would be to phone an EDT from the list and ask for their advice and recommendations. Mark Thorne is involved with training and examinations for BEVA/BAEDT and David Brown is very experienced(I use David): I have found them both to be extremely helpful and willing to help.
Edited for spelling errors
If you look in Equi-ads (the scottish one anyway) it is full of adverts for EDTs and I haven't seen any of them on the list... Stating that they are "fully insured" doesn't mean anything.
My personal advice would be to phone an EDT from the list and ask for their advice and recommendations. Mark Thorne is involved with training and examinations for BEVA/BAEDT and David Brown is very experienced(I use David): I have found them both to be extremely helpful and willing to help.
Edited for spelling errors
paulo
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I'm surprised from such a simple enquiry regarding Laura Chaffe, that this discussion has became a "personal debate" from what seems to be a BEVA registered dentist himself?! I agree there can be cowboys out there, but there are also good, hard working non-registered EDT's who are working towards there BEVA exam and who are fully supported by vets! I'd like to know where these BEVA registered EDT's started out? Did they not work on horses when they were training? How did they learn?? I find it really discouraging for those wanting to seek a career in this field. I feel you "registered EDT's" should be offering more support and guidance instead of trying to monopolise an "open market"!
Shiraz
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I am not a registered EDT?!? I just researched about it and am very particular about who I let in my horses' mouth with a rasp. She only has one mouth after all!
I happen to have seen first hand other horses' mouths that have non qualifed "dentists" work on them and it was not a pleasant experience; least of all for the horses!!
I never mentioned Laura Chaffe at all; just named the qualified and registered EDTs in Scotland...is that a crime?! That information is available to all on the website link I posted and it is up to owners to make informed decisions regarding their horses and their care.
I happen to have seen first hand other horses' mouths that have non qualifed "dentists" work on them and it was not a pleasant experience; least of all for the horses!!
I never mentioned Laura Chaffe at all; just named the qualified and registered EDTs in Scotland...is that a crime?! That information is available to all on the website link I posted and it is up to owners to make informed decisions regarding their horses and their care.
paulo
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No it's not a crime at all. After all it is only YOUR opinion and I'm sure there are more "open minded" horse lovers out there who understand that these non-registered EDT's have to begin somewhere!?!
I do think your earlier "cowboy" comments is unfair, however yet again that is only YOUR opinion.
I also see that for someone who knows so much about the dentistry field, you wern't so quick to answer/comment on my previous questions???? Surely you'll have came across these answers in your "research"?
I do think your earlier "cowboy" comments is unfair, however yet again that is only YOUR opinion.
I also see that for someone who knows so much about the dentistry field, you wern't so quick to answer/comment on my previous questions???? Surely you'll have came across these answers in your "research"?
Shiraz
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There's a difference between people learning and working towards the BEVA exam and people who at most have been on a 2wk training course and at worse just have a gag and a rasp setting up as a Eq D...once the legislation is in place hopefully that will all stop.
I apologise if you found my previous posts upsetting; that was not my intent.
I don't personally know what the answers are... I was previously interested in becoming an EDT but came up against the same brick wall - I DO NOT want to practice or offer my services without being fully trained and competent yet I cannot afford the time or money to go to America/Australia or Uni
I apologise if you found my previous posts upsetting; that was not my intent.
I don't personally know what the answers are... I was previously interested in becoming an EDT but came up against the same brick wall - I DO NOT want to practice or offer my services without being fully trained and competent yet I cannot afford the time or money to go to America/Australia or Uni
paulo
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I agree with your comments about being faced against brick walls when seeking a career in this field....same for me!
However, there has a lot to be said for the unregistered EDT'S currently working towards there BEVA exam and wanting to be genuinly good "dentists".
For me as an horse owner, my priority on "who" works on my animals are; there handling skills, patience, giving each horse the time they deserve and of course there experience.
Having experienced David Brown myself, i really wasn't impressed with his lack of patience with my youngster nor the want to twitch her ear! And i seriously got fed up listening to his unprofessional critisim towards other dentists in general and his constant "blowing of his own trumpet"!?!
Hence leaving me with the same question as the initial Laura Chaffe one? Any reccomendations welcome....registered or not?
However, there has a lot to be said for the unregistered EDT'S currently working towards there BEVA exam and wanting to be genuinly good "dentists".
For me as an horse owner, my priority on "who" works on my animals are; there handling skills, patience, giving each horse the time they deserve and of course there experience.
Having experienced David Brown myself, i really wasn't impressed with his lack of patience with my youngster nor the want to twitch her ear! And i seriously got fed up listening to his unprofessional critisim towards other dentists in general and his constant "blowing of his own trumpet"!?!
Hence leaving me with the same question as the initial Laura Chaffe one? Any reccomendations welcome....registered or not?