League Against Cruel Sports sanctuary exposé
- Thread starter DingDongScabiousOnHi
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wrighty
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I know no-one will believe this because I am against hunting and any cruelty towards animals but I have to point out a few things.
The CA has once again done a nice little bit of editting on the videos. The CA video of the deer being killed is dated 01/04/07, the deer in the back of the red Landrover is dated 08/04/07, both unrelated incidents, Yes? So how come in the video released a few months ago (Friction tv. "Stag stabbed to death on 'sanctuary' Debated on this forum in great detail)showing the deer being killed and put in a red Landrover was made to look like it was of the same incident on the same day?
CA are shooting themselves in the foot by cobbling together videos to show what they want to show and not what is happening.
There may be problems with some deer, there may be dirty tricks by either side but it still does not mean that any wild animal should be hunted for "sport" or culled just because we humans think we know best.
The CA has once again done a nice little bit of editting on the videos. The CA video of the deer being killed is dated 01/04/07, the deer in the back of the red Landrover is dated 08/04/07, both unrelated incidents, Yes? So how come in the video released a few months ago (Friction tv. "Stag stabbed to death on 'sanctuary' Debated on this forum in great detail)showing the deer being killed and put in a red Landrover was made to look like it was of the same incident on the same day?
CA are shooting themselves in the foot by cobbling together videos to show what they want to show and not what is happening.
There may be problems with some deer, there may be dirty tricks by either side but it still does not mean that any wild animal should be hunted for "sport" or culled just because we humans think we know best.
soggy
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Don't think twrighty is either deaf or blind..Just desperate to find any justification to defend her uninformed and biased opinions.
A typical "fluffy bunny huggers" reaction and response.
A typical "fluffy bunny huggers" reaction and response.
Reginald
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pardon?
wrighty
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I'm neither deaf, blind or a her.
The video released a few months ago says nothing about the incidents being on 2 seperate days, the date stamp is acually removed for the 1st incident I am trying to get across the fact that the 1st video was editted to make people think they were related, if this is happening how many have been editted in such a way to mislead the viewer?
I have no problem with the reporting of the "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbgDclFnxdI"
I would like to know who is was commissioned for.
Once again the loud people in this forum shout about fluffy bunnies and throw around insults to get away from the things that have been posted.
The video released a few months ago says nothing about the incidents being on 2 seperate days, the date stamp is acually removed for the 1st incident I am trying to get across the fact that the 1st video was editted to make people think they were related, if this is happening how many have been editted in such a way to mislead the viewer?
I have no problem with the reporting of the "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbgDclFnxdI"
I would like to know who is was commissioned for.
Once again the loud people in this forum shout about fluffy bunnies and throw around insults to get away from the things that have been posted.
DingDongScabiousOnHi
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i don't u nderstand your point. You are trying to say that the CA was trying to give a false impression that the deer killed in the first incdent was put in the back of a landrover?
Does whether or not the deer in the first incident got put in the back of a landrover or not have any relevance to anything?
Does whether or not the deer in the first incident got put in the back of a landrover or not have any relevance to anything?
severnmiles
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Anyone else notice how a certain Mr B constantly looked at the ground and not the camera or the man interviewing him....sign of lies.
dreamcometrue
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You're all talking crap except wrighty
faerie666
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Well that's a really helpful comment to make, isn't it?
Care to elaborate on your opinions?
Care to elaborate on your opinions?
Eagle_day
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... so it was the CA who deliberately infected the Baronsdown deer with TB? Mystery solved.
Dream come true? But not for the deer of the West Country. If LACS are motivated on animal welfare grounds, WHY do they tolerate this? Don't they care, or are they just completely out of their depth?
Dream come true? But not for the deer of the West Country. If LACS are motivated on animal welfare grounds, WHY do they tolerate this? Don't they care, or are they just completely out of their depth?
Fantasy_World
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I can't get sound on youtube 
so cannot comment on anything that is said on the video. However after watching most of it and also the shorter clip of the deer being stabbed to death I was absolutely sickened by it.
Was this person an amateur? Certainly looked like it from the clip. That deer suffered a painful and agonising death when it should have been shot in my opinion!
Disgraceful !!!!!!!!!!
Caz
so cannot comment on anything that is said on the video. However after watching most of it and also the shorter clip of the deer being stabbed to death I was absolutely sickened by it.Was this person an amateur? Certainly looked like it from the clip. That deer suffered a painful and agonising death when it should have been shot in my opinion!
Disgraceful !!!!!!!!!!
Caz
Reginald
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"That deer suffered a painful and agonising death when it should have been shot in my opinion!"
That's precisely my argument against hunting deer with hounds.
That's precisely my argument against hunting deer with hounds.
DingDongScabiousOnHi
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lol and that is what the hunts do, shoot them
strangley enough myu argument against the hunting act is that the deer my dogs flush out SHOULDN'T be shot.
strangley enough myu argument against the hunting act is that the deer my dogs flush out SHOULDN'T be shot.
wrighty
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Ding, I was commenting on the fact that CA editted the 1st video to make it look like it was something that wasn't the true event, this harms their cause.
I would still like to know who commissioned this report, was it a Pro tv programme or national news?
"strangley enough myu argument against the hunting act is that the deer my dogs flush out SHOULDN'T be shot"
I think someone who keeps changing their name has returned, I have seen comments like this on several videos on YouTube.
I would still like to know who commissioned this report, was it a Pro tv programme or national news?
"strangley enough myu argument against the hunting act is that the deer my dogs flush out SHOULDN'T be shot"
I think someone who keeps changing their name has returned, I have seen comments like this on several videos on YouTube.
Reginald
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"lol and that is what the hunts do, shoot them"
Yes... having chased them for three hours unti they're so exhausted they have to stop. Their last moments alive are spent in front of a pack of baying hounds. A cruel and agonising death indeed.
To reduce an animal to this state, to do so when a far less cruel option has been suggested by Lord Burns (ie simply stalk and shoot the animal with dogs on hand to track it if it escapes injured), but more to the point actively to get gratification from doing this is simply perverse.
Yes... having chased them for three hours unti they're so exhausted they have to stop. Their last moments alive are spent in front of a pack of baying hounds. A cruel and agonising death indeed.
To reduce an animal to this state, to do so when a far less cruel option has been suggested by Lord Burns (ie simply stalk and shoot the animal with dogs on hand to track it if it escapes injured), but more to the point actively to get gratification from doing this is simply perverse.
DingDongScabiousOnHi
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Surely the law requiring people to use ten guns to shoot an entire herd that is flushed out when they don't want to is perverse.
DingDongScabiousOnHi
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Can you actually engage with the subject?
scabby
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Do you know what chrionic Tb and llungworm does to an animal?
Reginald
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The most perverse thing of all is that a group of malcontents with far too much time on their hands is going to the Eureaucracy of Brussels claiming that it is their HUMAN RIGHT to chase a deer for three hours, to the point of exhaustion, and then kill it. Who are these sad people?
tkmaxx
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The claims of 'clever editing' are a little stupid.
It's hardly clever to leave the date on it, is it now!
That red landy is owned by the League and seems to appear in videos where cruelty to deer takes place. It's hardly the CA's fault if they repeatidly film the same car at scenes of cruelty now, is it?
What I want to know is, how DO the league feel knowing their ever move is being stalked by someone with a video camera just waiting for them to break the law?
As they've broken more laws than we ever have, I'm sure it gets them sweated up a bit!
It's hardly clever to leave the date on it, is it now!
That red landy is owned by the League and seems to appear in videos where cruelty to deer takes place. It's hardly the CA's fault if they repeatidly film the same car at scenes of cruelty now, is it?
What I want to know is, how DO the league feel knowing their ever move is being stalked by someone with a video camera just waiting for them to break the law?
As they've broken more laws than we ever have, I'm sure it gets them sweated up a bit!
soggy
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The death is quick and painless. It comes in to form of a large dose of lead in the shape of a bullet.
soggy
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I'm far from sad or malcontent. What your excuse?
scabby
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lol reggie one oif them is me!
I feel that i should have the right not to kill the deer though
wurzel
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He might have suggested it but no one seems to listen !!
Who controls the culling of Deer on Exmoor?
Who controls the culling of Deer on Exmoor?
wrighty
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"The claims of 'clever editing' are a little stupid.
It's hardly clever to leave the date on it, is it now!"
If you gad bothered to read correctly I am saying that the video 1st released a few months back used the 2 videos but the date on the 1st bit (The man who was not a member of LACS) was not shown, only the date on the 2nd bit (Deer in the Landy)
"Can you actually engage with the subject?"
I have only had 1 point on this subject and you all seem to be missing it, CA released a video a few months ago with editing making it look like it happened on the same day, which it didn't therefore harming their credibility.
So, Ding, are you who I think you are? The person that has been kicked off this site a few times and who a lot of the other users (Pro and Anti) think you're a bit of a crackpot?
It's hardly clever to leave the date on it, is it now!"
If you gad bothered to read correctly I am saying that the video 1st released a few months back used the 2 videos but the date on the 1st bit (The man who was not a member of LACS) was not shown, only the date on the 2nd bit (Deer in the Landy)
"Can you actually engage with the subject?"
I have only had 1 point on this subject and you all seem to be missing it, CA released a video a few months ago with editing making it look like it happened on the same day, which it didn't therefore harming their credibility.
So, Ding, are you who I think you are? The person that has been kicked off this site a few times and who a lot of the other users (Pro and Anti) think you're a bit of a crackpot?
tkmaxx
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What sort of idiot honestly thinks a video which jumps between dated footage and undated footage is from the same camera at the same time?
I suppose, however, antis have an intimate knowledge of how to edit videos to make them look suspicious. Jane Wild was an expert at it and other sabs have perfected the art of the suspicious looking photo as well.
I suppose, however, antis have an intimate knowledge of how to edit videos to make them look suspicious. Jane Wild was an expert at it and other sabs have perfected the art of the suspicious looking photo as well.
wrighty
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OK smart arse, why did they cover it up when it was clearly on the video in the 1st place? (As proved by the video released this week)
Oh, nice switch around to blaim anti's, seamless.
I know there is noting I can say that you will remotely agree with unless I say hunting is great and should be taught in all schools.
(Do you think someone will cut and paste part of that to somehow say I now support hunting?)
Oh, nice switch around to blaim anti's, seamless.
I know there is noting I can say that you will remotely agree with unless I say hunting is great and should be taught in all schools.
(Do you think someone will cut and paste part of that to somehow say I now support hunting?)
Reginald
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Yes, I'm well aware that you're one of the fanatics trudging cap in hand to Brussels. But why use "scabby" to admit this and not your usual name "DingDongScabiousOnHi"?
Quite incidentally, I see some of the girls in the soapbox forum having been complaining about your conduct.
Quite incidentally, I see some of the girls in the soapbox forum having been complaining about your conduct.
the watcher
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Girls?
Did you intend to sound quite so condescending then?
scabby
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Reginald. You attack me personally bevcause you are unable to attack my argument.
I don't kill any of the deer i flush. Why should it be illegal not to shoot flushed deer?
I know you can't answer it but it is worth posing the question just to make that clear.
lol dingdoing got banned for using naughty words :0
I don't kill any of the deer i flush. Why should it be illegal not to shoot flushed deer?
I know you can't answer it but it is worth posing the question just to make that clear.
lol dingdoing got banned for using naughty words :0