Livery in Lighthorne area (wanted)

[jirist]

Hello everybody,


As I posted on the Tack Room, I am a new member of this forum. I just arrived in England two weeks ago (and for 3 months minimum), and my horses stayed in France for the moment.


If my contract in England will be extended in December, I would like to bring my 2 horses from France.
So I am researching some information about a place for them, around Lighthorne.


I don't know, what are the different liveries in UK.
I would like, my 2 horses live together outside, in a field (or/and come inside, in an individual box for the night). All the feed must be included. And I need a space to work (an indoor arena will be the best) and some paths for walking with them.


Which type of livery is it ? Part livery ? Full livery ?
I don't want to mind about their food/water or turnout rugs for exemple (I will not have the time with my job).
Just to take care of them, to ride, and enjoy the time I have with them.


Do you know one very nice around Lighthorne ?
How much it could cost ?


And I will be very happy to meet some people passionated by horses also


Hoping to read you soon


Alex




PS. Sorry for my mistakes in english.

 

[kc100]

Hi Alex,

This yard is about 5 minutes away from lighthorne - https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bromson-Hall-Farm-Stables/316413925114910

I think you will need part livery (full livery in the UK normally means all care and they will ride/exercise the horses too) - Part livery typically involves turn out and bring in (with rug changes), all feed, bedding (may have to pay extra for shavings), water (some places have automatic watering systems anyway), mucking out, ad lib hay/haylage etc. The yard where my horse is kept (just over the border from Warwickshire) is £90 per week for part livery, so I'd imagine prices for you will be somewhere between £50 and £100 per week depending on the facilities of the yard.

Bromson Hall has an indoor but you do have to pay extra per month to use it, there is a nice big floodlit outdoor there as well however if you dont want to pay extra.

This is a bit further afield - http://www.willicoteequestriancentre.co.uk/page2.html
But it is a competition venue as well as a livery yard and the facilities sound good.

Natalie Allen does take liveries, as does Paul Friday - their details are on the BD website so both of those worth a try, Natalie has an indoor school but Paul does not. They are both professional riders though and dont have much space so you might struggle to get 2 horses at these yards.

This yard is actually in lighthorne - http://www.banistersmeadowstables.com/
No indoor but facilities look good.

Be aware that yards with indoors tend to charge a lot more - you get better value for money with yards that just have outdoor schools, and the surfaces are normally good with lights so you can ride all year round.

Hope this helps and good luck!

 

[jirist]

Thanks kc100 !!! You help me a lot !

If I understand, for Bromson Hall, I'll have to pay £20 just to train one hour in the indoor arena ??
But it's close from my place.

So the maximum I'll find, will be 400£ per month for a part livery ? (do you pay your livery each week, or each month in England?)
We are so far from the £130 to £210 per month I had in my last livery in France ... (near Lyon, and with indoor arena !!!)

I will ask the prices and if they have free places to Banisters Meadow Stables.

Thank you so much !

 

[kc100]

Thanks kc100 !!! You help me a lot !

If I understand, for Bromson Hall, I'll have to pay £20 just to train one hour in the indoor arena ??
But it's close from my place.

So the maximum I'll find, will be 400£ per month for a part livery ? (do you pay your livery each week, or each month in England?)
We are so far from the £130 to £210 per month I had in my last livery in France ... (near Lyon, and with indoor arena !!!)

I will ask the prices and if they have free places to Banisters Meadow Stables.

Thank you so much !

Afraid so - part/full livery is very expensive in the UK, especially the Warwickshire area. The yards with the good facilities all charge a lot of money - if you are happy only having an outdoor school then you will pay less, but you have to weigh up your needs vs how much you can afford.

I cant confirm if it is £20 per use at Bromsom Hall for the indoor, I think if you wanted to use it regularly you might be able to negotiate a better price that they would combine with the price of the livery. Their outdoor is lovely so you might find you dont need to use the indoor that much, and the stables are really nice too. Banisters does look like better value though, however I've never been myself so cant say what it is like.

Normally you get invoiced for your livery once a month, but they quote you in prices per week - a bit odd but that's the UK for you!

I think you'll find everything in the UK is more expensive than France I'm afraid, the cost of living is way higher over here and that includes anything horse related. Warwickshire (especially south Warwickshire where you are) is on the edge of the cotswolds, and the cotswolds are where a lot of rich people from London have weekend/country houses as it is not too far from London - so naturally the prices are very high because of this. Livery yards know this, it is not uncommon for Londoners to keep their horses in the country and only come up to the yards on weekends, so the livery yards can charge more for livery knowing their clients are rich southeners.

Good luck in finding somewhere!

 

[JDW85]

If you haen't managed to find anywhere yet, I can highly recommend Pipers Hill Farm between Bishops Itchington and Gaydon (5-10 mins from Lighthorne).

I think they only have full or part liveries, but it's a lovely quiet yard, 300 acres of offroad hacking with some xc and hunt fences, nice school with jumps and an instructor on site. There's also access to a bridleway if you wanted to venture even further hacking. It's very close to the J12 junction of the M40 so great access to get out to competitions too.

They do have a website, but there's no info on there at the moment but it does have their contact details if you want to give them a ring - http://www.hbequestrianltd.co.uk/1.html

 

[Melvyn]

A friend of mine told me the other day that Bromson Hall Farm Stables have closed!

 

[MissChaos]

Seems so (apart from pros and pros' liveries). Blimey. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bromson-Hall-Farm-Stables/316413925114910

 

[jirist]

Hello,
Sorry to be back just now. But my contract was extended, so my horses will come in UK between the 30st of December or 2nd of January.

Unfortunately, Bromson are closed now, it will be just used by professionnals (that's what they told me when I asked for a livery).
I visited Pipers Hill Farm, it is a wonderful place, with nice owners, but maybe too expensive (because I have two, not just one) for me for the moment.

Finally I will choose a DIY livery to begin (because I don't know yet how much I will be paid from January, so it is more safe).
Near Lighthorne.
I want them to be in stables during the night, and in the fields during the day. With an arena with lights to work during evenings. And a place to park my trailer.

I visited the Banisters Meadows Stables, it looks a very nice place. Is there someone here in these stables ?
And what it means "turnout" included ?

 

[JustKickOn]

And what it means "turnout" included ?

Turnout included means the cost of the horse going in the field is included in the cost of your chosen livery package.

 

[jirist]

Turnout included means the cost of the horse going in the field is included in the cost of your chosen livery package.

Hi!
Thanks for your reply

Ok so it includes the field.
But I have to bring them myself in the field the morning? There is nobody to bring all the horses in the fields ?

Sorry if my questions seem stupid, but it is so different than in France. In France everything is included.

 

[JustKickOn]

DIY usually means that you have to do everything for yourself, so that includes putting them in the field in the morning, and bringing them in to the stable at night time. You will have to do all mucking out and chores yourself.

Depending on the yard, some offer a small fee for turning the horses out for you, normally around £1 a day per horse to turn out. You may be able to set up this deal with the yard, or discuss possible options.

 

[jirist]

DIY usually means that you have to do everything for yourself, so that includes putting them in the field in the morning, and bringing them in to the stable at night time. You will have to do all mucking out and chores yourself.

Depending on the yard, some offer a small fee for turning the horses out for you, normally around £1 a day per horse to turn out. You may be able to set up this deal with the yard, or discuss possible options.

Thanks JustKickO

now I understand. It is really just to rent the place, but nothing else. Any service have to be charge more than a DIY price.

 

[JustKickOn]

Yes, exactly.

When on a livery yard, DIY is the most basic package.

Part livery is more expensive because the yard owner and staff do more for you and your horse, and full livery is even more expensive because they essentially take care of everything for you, and all you have to do is ride.

There is what we call assisted DIY, where you do everything, but on certain days if you need help, then you can arrange with the yard what you would like them to do. It would have to be arranged beforehand though, so the yard know how to plan their schedule for the day.